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re: Are used car sales jobs the bottom for sales jobs?

Posted on 8/22/25 at 8:48 pm to
Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
5801 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 8:48 pm to
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Is that true?


Definitely.

Steal a trade in for 8k, sell it for 19k.

The margins are higher selling used. They actually lose money on the new and make it up stealing trades and in the service department.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 8:52 pm to
quote:

Steal a trade in for 8k, sell it for 19k.

The margins are higher selling used. They actually lose money on the new and make it up stealing trades and in the service department.


shite like this is why car salesmen are hated so much
Posted by TigerNlc
Chocolate City
Member since Jun 2006
33197 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 8:57 pm to
I respect anyone who has a job. Especially people with shitty jobs. I’ve sold insurance and I didn’t like it but a lot of people do. If you are a good salesperson it doesn’t matter what you sell.
Posted by tadman
Member since Jun 2020
5446 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 9:06 pm to
I worked a couple semesters during school part time at a used car lot. It was higher end used stuff. The pay wasn't great but it was beer money and the cool cars were half the fun.

From that time I got to know the owner and the industry a bit. I did a couple used car fraud cases for a buddy who worked at a bank, just some research. I also know a couple guys as an adult that work there.

It's not a great industry. Even the full time guys are compensated like part time - few benefits, not much of a base salary, very little loyalty. You have a few really high end and high volume stores that might have some well-compensated guys, but that's it.

The average is probably well below where you would want your kids to be.And there are a larger than normal amount of substance abusers and ex-cons, as there is little certification to speak of.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134660 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 9:08 pm to
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Steal a trade in for 8k, Spend $8k fixing the busted up rims, the bald tires, the busted windshield, the hanging off bumper, the scratches, the check engine lights,sell it for 19k.


FIFY
Look, I'm sure there are some shitty tote the note places that just throw a little tree in a trade and try to flip it without doing any sort of repairs...and if someone wants to buy that, caveat emptor.



But there's no business that doesn't try to turn a profit. I knew a guy who would buy cars with issues for as little as he could, fix them up, and flip them for a profit.

I never once thought of that guy as a sleazeball.

There's definitely some scum in every industry, but I'm not gonna fault people that buy cars with issues to fix them up and resell. Gotta make the margins somehow
This post was edited on 8/22/25 at 9:12 pm
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21290 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 9:10 pm to
Lawyers are basically used car salesmen and the reason insurance prices are insane.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 9:15 pm to
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Lawyers


Forgot about them.

The worst......
Posted by HighProofWheated
Member since Jun 2025
51 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 9:19 pm to
I’m in Lincoln pretty often, sounds like we need to connect so you can hook me up with some of these folks
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 9:21 pm to
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I’m in Lincoln pretty often, sounds like we need to connect so you can hook me up with some of these folks


Just stop by any of the used lots on West O. Theyre all the same culturally.
Posted by IamNotaRobot
OKC
Member since Nov 2021
1831 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 9:23 pm to
Drugs, booze, strip clubs, divorce. Pretty sure it’s mandatory to be dabbling in at least two of those at any given time to be in sales.
Posted by A10Rebel
Colorado
Member since Nov 2018
994 posts
Posted on 8/22/25 at 10:56 pm to
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No, it’s Comcast.


These people are toilet bugs.
Posted by jiffyjohnson
1226 miles from Death Valley
Member since Nov 2011
5801 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:11 am to
quote:

shite like this is why car salesmen are hated so much


shite man most people dont even have to get that far to hate em. The process is designed to wear you down.

But selling a new 72k diesel can get you 1200, while selling a stolen trade for a 15k markup can get you double or more depending on if commission is paid out in gross or volume (flat rate per car). Sales managers encourage getting walk ups off the new cars and into the used. Better for the dealership, better for the salesman.

Nothin against warrior poet freemanator but I've seen them get vacuumed out and sold the next day. Youre right about the margins and turning a profit. We knew what we owned the trade for and they'd challenge us to earn as much as we could.

"Damn jiff seems like you've worked at a shitty dealership before."

Yep, I've worked at both kinds. It was educational if nothing else.

Word to the wise, if they pull out a 4-square just walk away. Doesn't matter how much time you've invested into making this mistake just get up and go.

Hope this shite helps a baw out.


This post was edited on 8/23/25 at 12:21 am
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84759 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:22 am to
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all his salesmen have felonies and have been divorced at some point also a lot of them have drug and alcohol problems and spend a ton of time in strip clubs.


Sounds better than my job tbh
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84759 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:23 am to
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Word to the wise, if they pull out a 4-square just walk away.


What does this mean
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84759 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:26 am to
quote:

Lawyers are basically used car salesmen and the reason insurance prices are insane.


Absolute scum
Posted by H2O Tiger
Delta Sky Club
Member since May 2021
7954 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:27 am to
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Ive never seen door to door solar. How are these clowns?



These are the people who get cussed out by me after ringing my doorbell (ignoring the no soliciting sign) and waking up my kid.

I can't imagine it's a fun job but, as I told the last guy that did it, why the frick would I buy anything from someone who can't read.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 12:42 am to
quote:

4-square


Whats this?
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
6487 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 1:07 am to
A "4 square" in car sales refers to a negotiation tactic where a car dealership uses a worksheet divided into four boxes to discuss different aspects of the deal: the price of the new car, the trade-in value of the customer's old car, the down payment, and the monthly payment. This method is often criticized for being confusing and designed to distract the customer from focusing on the overall price of the car.
Posted by BayouFann
CenLa
Member since Jun 2012
7193 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 4:31 am to
Used car salesman=immoral and scandalous!
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15325 posts
Posted on 8/23/25 at 4:55 am to
Aren’t you the clown that said Peyton Manning won a national championship? Dipshit
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