re: Are there really winners and losers in life?

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helps if you have well off parents

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Actually helps if your parents teach you the right things. I was watching Bill Wichrowski on Deadliest Catch last week, and he gave a good line from his dad:

“I’m not here to be your friend. I’m here to teach you how to survive in this world.”

If you're born stupid, ugly, and spastic in America, you're highly unlikely to achieve what the majority of Americans consider to be success in life. This statement isn't meant to be an indictment of children with disabilities or Pimp's religious and rock climbing friends, but a more general statement about our societal norms.

The overwhelming majority of successful people are either intelligent, attractive or athletic. If you're all three (like most OT'rs, I presume), you'd have to be a severely lazy and unmotivated person to not achieve a degree of success. Mental illness could also sidetrack you, but not always. Intelligence, attractiveness, and athleticism isn't a guarantee of success, but I'd say the majority of successful people possess at least one of these traits.

If you really think about it, you'll be hard pressed to name a successful person who is neither intelligent, attractive or athletic. I'm not necessarily talking about "genius" intelligence, although that helps with winning that Nobel Prize. A person of average intelligence, combined with dedication, hard work and a good idea can also achieve financial success. But strictly speaking, the child who falls out of the womb with the proper combination of genes to make him/her grow up to be intelligent, attractive and athletic is going to find life much easier.

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Second part is luck. 



Spoken like a true loser.

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Figured I would get that from some moron here.

I've worked pretty hard for my degrees and have been making in the 6 figures for the past 5 years and will until I retire.

I was surprised it turns out that luck is more important than effort in building wealth but fact is, it is. A lot of life is about right place right time and who you know. Maybe you are young and don't realize this yet. But you will eventually.

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Winning takes effort but it helps if you have well off parents. When you know that you are ok if you fail at something and still stand to inherit diamonds and gold, then you can say WTF and take chances. If you are the son of a famous musician or actor, you can work for Walmart and still rake in lots of pussy. It helps to be born with a silver spoon in your mouth .

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Having well off parents is just as often a recipe for creating losers, look at all the screwed up kids of actors and musicians, I could give a long run down of worthless adults and kids I know that came from well off families. Knowing that you can do nothing, and still be well off is not much of a motivator, knowing you are on your own with no safety net tends to make you think about what you are doing, and making good decisions in life.

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have been making in the 6 figures for the past 5 years and will until I retire. 

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Well then, since you've been making in the six figures for 5 whole years, you must really know what it takes to be a winner. Congratulations!

Only losers brag about their salary. Especially 6 figures. That's pretty standard for anyone that's 5-10 years into their career.

fricking loser.

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Luck is a real thing

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If you're born into a wealthy family, that's definitely good luck, but it's not an absolute guarantee of success. You are likely to be provided with more opportunities to achieve success through your family and their network of friends and educational access, but if you're stupid and lazy you're unlikely to achieve success.

There's truth to the expression about being born on third base and believing you hit a triple. You haven't done shite except being born into the Lucky Womb Club.

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Of course. Best example of a winner is Donald Trump.

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Lets assume that that Trump's father fronted him the $10-20 million bucks that he used to get started, many people have had parents that were mush wealthier than Trump's and did not come close to turning it into multiple billions of dollars.

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Luck is a real thing

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fact. I don't get why it pains some people so much to admit this.

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Luck is a real thing

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Only in gambling.

Luck is opportunity meeting preparedness.

If you develop some skills, you can be in a position to capitalize on them if the opportunity arises