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re: Are parents that put their 15 year old daughter on birth control condoning sex or not?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:52 am to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:52 am to Bestbank Tiger
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pulled a train in the hockey team's locker room."
You'd have to temper your relief over the fact she didn't say basketball team.
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Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:53 am to ManBearTiger
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Did you already forget that you are the jamoke who made the vicodon comparison in the first place?
It was an analogy to compare effectiveness of birth control on acne vs. clearasil and show how they aren't in the same realm.
One is a topical treatment, one controls your hormone levels.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:54 am to TheCaterpillar
quote:I agree and that's exactly what I've said all along. (or meant to say).
They're just saying all the parenting in the world can produce an excellent teenager with great grades, community involvement, tons of self-confidence, and some of them will still screw.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:54 am to TheCaterpillar
Yeah and I'm saying your analogy is nonsense akin to treating the cold with a total blood transfusion.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:55 am to TheCaterpillar
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B. birth control isn't addictive
I knew a girl...she was addicted to birth control.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:56 am to ManBearTiger
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Oh I'm well aware that it can be used to treat acne, clearasil and a number other, cheaper products do the same thing.
Did you even read the review article I posted? It's use and efficacy is well documented in the medical literature.
Sure, OTC treatments should be tried first. However they are not always effective. Even BC pills don't 100% work for acne.
The best treatment is typically Accutane but the risks often outweigh the reward.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:56 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You'd have to temper your relief over the fact she didn't say basketball team.
Lol...well, I wouldn't because race us irrelevant to me. But I had to pick hockey to avoid that issue.
As far as teen pregnancy, it certainly puts you behind the curve, but it's possible to recover. I know a few women who are former teen moms and are doing fine. Also know a few who aren't. Really just a matter of whether they get their act together or they never mature and keep making bad decisions.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:57 am to The Mick
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Absolutely. And of course some kids will still start early but it's not inevitable like these hard legs seem to think.
Study says 47% of high schoolers say they have had sex
Hardly more than "some"
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 11:58 am
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:57 am to Bestbank Tiger
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Lol...well, I wouldn't because race us irrelevant to me. But I had to pick hockey to avoid that issue
Yeah it was just a joke
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:57 am to toosleaux
I've heard of parents putting their daughter on the pill at that age and even younger in an effort to help normalize their menstrual cycle.
But I've never heard of parents putting them on it at that age to let them go out and have sex.
But I've never heard of parents putting them on it at that age to let them go out and have sex.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 11:58 am to The Mick
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Saying that parenting has an effect is not spewing bull shite. It's a fact.
Parenting does have an effect but you can't ignore that every child is not the same. There isn't a one-size-fits-all parenting style that works on any child and can prevent them from making mistakes.
Kids are going to grow into their own person. You can try to teach them all you want but some kids will have little interest in some of your values, and that's not a failing of the parents. Doesn't mean they can't grow into being good adults.
Every kid is going to make mistakes. Helping to mitigate the damage done by those mistakes saves a lot of kids from going down a bad path.
This post was edited on 4/12/17 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:00 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Sufficient for what? I think we're splitting hairs with symantics now. I wasnt trying to insinuate that parenting will prevent kids having sex 100% of the time.
However, you seem to believe parenting has a sufficient effect, which for most is not the case.
quote:We were talking about 15 year olds specifically. That's the age group my comments have been directed at. Maybe you guys think I'm referring to all HS kids but that wasn't my intention.
Most high school aged kids bang. That's just a fact.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:03 pm to Goldrush25
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Every kid is going to make mistakes. Helping to mitigate the damage done by those mistakes saves a lot of kids from going down a bad path
Yeah, those claiming a good upbringing will ensure virginity seem to thing this magic pill automatically cancels out all those values.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:04 pm to The Mick
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We were talking about 15 year olds specifically. That's the age group my comments have been directed at. Maybe you guys think I'm referring to all HS kids but that wasn't my intention.
So what is the acceptable age in your view?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:05 pm to The Mick
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We were talking about 15 year olds specifically. That's the age group my comments have been directed at. Maybe you guys think I'm referring to all HS kids but that wasn't my intention.
Most 15 year olds are going to be sophomores it's pretty relevant to talk high schoolers as it's the world/culture they are operating in
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:10 pm to Goldrush25
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Parenting does have an effect but you can't ignore that every child is not the same. There isn't a one-size-fits-all parenting style that works on any child and can prevent them from making mistakes.
That's an important point.
If she has a long history of doing stupid things, then by definition she's more likely to have sex at 15 (which is another stupid and irresponsible thing to do), and the pill might be a good idea.
You also need to take family medical history into account. If you have an extensive family history of breast cancer or clotting conditions, the pill is too dangerous and she just has to accept the fact that she can't take it.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:14 pm to Dire Wolf
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Study says 47% of high schoolers say they have had sex
Hardly more than "some"
So in a school of mostly 14-17 year olds, half had sex. That percentage would decrease for each age group. Those of you saying every 15 year old girl fricks are crazy.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:15 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Acceptable age for what?
So what is the acceptable age in your view?
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:15 pm to toosleaux
As soon as your teen daughter mentions birth control, put her on the pill.
She's going to be targeted by a world full of boys and men. It doesn't mean she's going to be a slut. It means that one moment of weakness or a bad choice on her part won't have to alter her entire life.
She's going to be targeted by a world full of boys and men. It doesn't mean she's going to be a slut. It means that one moment of weakness or a bad choice on her part won't have to alter her entire life.
Posted on 4/12/17 at 12:16 pm to toosleaux
I had a difficult time with this. It felt wrong in a way at the time, but in retrospect things turned out well. She trusted me and her mom for the remainder of her teenage years. She graduated HS without any problems and got married before getting pregnant.
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