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re: Are Lobbyist Good Or Bad For Government?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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How do you educate politicians without lobby
The idiot has walked around a lot but in case you can't tell nothing that it agrees with count as a lobby.
It's always the same with these morons
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Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:07 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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just mean someone in the govt working with Congress who "researchers, is involved with and understands" said topic
OMG
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:07 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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I just mean someone in the govt working with Congress who "researchers, is involved with and understands" said topic.
A lobbyist. Just paid b the government
You've just opened the door to massive corruption.
Thousands of governments have their own lobby and you already hate it.
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 9:09 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
How is someone who absorbs knowledge about a topic a lobbyist?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:09 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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He probably thinks PACs dont have any contact with campaign officials either
PAC and Lobbyist are completely different. I am well aware of the difference between the two.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:09 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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A lobbyist. Just paid b the government
You've just opened the door to massive corruption
Idiot wants paid bureaucrats to "inform" Congress and cut the people out of the process entirely............. Because Democracy!!!!!
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:09 pm to OweO
This post is insanely idiotic. Our state has large, larger than most, deaths of individuals that Rey on government assistance as income.
Also has large, larger than most, swaths of people that despise education and view it as something that only occurs between 8-3 weekdays during the school year.
The politicians we constantly vote for are why we are poor. Look at Alabama and Mississippi. Two states with substantially less natural resource and significantly smaller ports. But in general, they have begun voting in less tax and spend politicians and have enacted educational reforms and business friendly policies and they are leaving us in the dust.
Louisiana has a culture problem and a spending problem.
Also has large, larger than most, swaths of people that despise education and view it as something that only occurs between 8-3 weekdays during the school year.
The politicians we constantly vote for are why we are poor. Look at Alabama and Mississippi. Two states with substantially less natural resource and significantly smaller ports. But in general, they have begun voting in less tax and spend politicians and have enacted educational reforms and business friendly policies and they are leaving us in the dust.
Louisiana has a culture problem and a spending problem.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Yes, but these people are congressional staff - simply tasked with making sure the person they report go is informed when making decisons
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:10 pm to OweO
As long as government has the power to pick winners and losers in the market place and to infringe upon the civil liberties of their constituents, lobbyists will exist to try and persuade lawmakers to see why their rights should be expanded or why they should be a winner and not a loser. If government had no power worth lobbying, there would be no lobbyists.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:10 pm to OweO
I wasn't referring to you in said post btw
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:11 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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How is someone who absorbs knowledge about a topic a lobbyist?
Who is this theoretical human unicorn going to talk to when he's researching a topic?
More human unicorns with no bias?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:11 pm to fr33manator
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Your parents likely weep at the fact of your existence.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:12 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Yes, but these people are congressional staff - simply tasked with making sure the person they report go is informed when making decisons
All you're saying is you do not want people or groups to be able to advocate for themselves and the government should decide without input.
Wow
Why should you not be able to advocate for yourself?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:13 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Yes, but these people are congressional staff - simply tasked with making sure the person they report go is informed when making decisons
There's your fan of democracy people!
Congressional staff will keep your Congressman informed
No need for you to try.
Just imagine the sheer number of such staffers one would need!!!
ROFLMAO. I'm starting to feel like I'm on the board version of candid camera
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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All you're saying is you do not want people or groups to be able to advocate for themselves and the government should decide without input.
Wow
Marx called and wants his ideas back
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:14 pm to ShortyRob
He is reporting to the politician he reports to. He only has a job because the politician can't be up to date on everything they oversee.
His job is to educate himself and present the facts as he sees them. Hopefully his only bias is to be factually correct because he isn't paid by a party on either side of whatever hypothetical topic
His job is to educate himself and present the facts as he sees them. Hopefully his only bias is to be factually correct because he isn't paid by a party on either side of whatever hypothetical topic
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:14 pm to The Spleen
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And just for the record, I think lobbying is bad because it makes lawmakers lazy. They’re the ones elected to write our laws, yet the bulk of our bills drafted and passed and are written by lobbyists. I think In theory they’re a good thing, but like most everything else in politics the system gets perverted by bad actors.
The problem is we have too many damn laws
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:15 pm to ShortyRob
Again, I didnt ban lobbying, it now has a mechanism for you to give money to whatever politician you think best fights for your personal ideas
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:16 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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He is reporting to the politician he reports to. He only has a job because the politician can't be up to date on everything they oversee.
When you say he, you need to say they........ Like thousands of they.
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His job is to educate himself and present the facts as he sees them
Whose he talk to to research?
quote:well this is a problem since 100% of all humans have personal biaes.
Hopefully his only bias is to be factually correct because he isn't paid by a party on either side of whatever hypothetical topic
Not to mention. Um. Who hires this unicorn staffer?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 9:16 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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His job is to educate himself and present the facts as he sees them. Hopefully his only bias is to be factually correct because he isn't paid by a party on either side of whatever hypothetical topic
So you open a business. It's successful. The State passes a law with regulations that will put you out of business.
You don't believe you should be able to talk to politicians try to save your business?
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