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Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:46 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Like minded people still pool their money. Big lobbying players get half the return on what they would normally spend.
Seems like a good start
Only if you're a moron
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:47 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There absolutely is and it's not even close. Might educate yourself.
I am. You’re naive if you think there isn’t coordination between lobbying firms and PACs.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:48 pm to ShortyRob
You think the current lobbying system is good.
Really not worried about your opinion on intelligence.
It is helping drive people directly away from stability and confidence in our govt institutions - basically what you should want to avoid.
Really not worried about your opinion on intelligence.
It is helping drive people directly away from stability and confidence in our govt institutions - basically what you should want to avoid.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:49 pm to The Spleen
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I am. You’re naive if you think there isn’t coordination between lobbying firms and PACs
PACs also come in basically every stripe one can imagine
This whole thread really amounts to, "I want to stop the people with money that I don't like........ While trying to figure out how to not stop the ones I like"
It's idiocy
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:49 pm to The Spleen
He probably thinks PACs dont have any contact with campaign officials either
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:50 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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Really not worried about your opinion on intelligence.
That's fine
You've already proven you haven't the foggiest idea what you're talkin about
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:51 pm to ShortyRob
It makes a lot of sense for my objective and idea off democracy
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:51 pm to Sneaky__Sally
And just for the record, I think lobbying is bad because it makes lawmakers lazy. They’re the ones elected to write our laws, yet the bulk of our bills drafted and passed and are written by lobbyists. I think In theory they’re a good thing, but like most everything else in politics the system gets perverted by bad actors.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:51 pm to The Torch
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The oil/gas lobbyist in Louisiana have screwed the state out of more money that Edwin Edwards could in 10 lifetimes. And continue to daily.
How so?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:51 pm to Sneaky__Sally
quote:by the way genius. When you and your like-minded friends pool your money to try and persuade politicians what exactly do you call that entity?
Like minded people still pool their money
I'll give you a hint. It starts with an L
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:52 pm to The Spleen
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And just for the record, I think lobbying is bad because it makes lawmakers lazy. They’re the ones elected to write our laws, yet the bulk of our bills drafted and passed and are written by lobbyists. I think In theory they’re a good thing, but like most everything else in politics the system gets perverted by bad actors
I agree, the idea of lobbying helping make lawmakers make informed decisions which benefit their constituents is a great idea. It just doesnt play out that way
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:53 pm to The Spleen
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am. You’re naive if you think there isn’t coordination between lobbying firms and PACs.
Now groups can have both but they function totally different. PACS have lobby but they are highly regulated.
Sounds like your issue is campaign finance.
This post was edited on 1/5/20 at 8:57 pm
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:53 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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He probably thinks PACs
I don't think you know what either are.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:54 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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makes a lot of sense for my objective and idea off democracy
You've already admitted you're ok with money influencing politicians
So your "idea" of democracy would appear to be, "ONLY your ideas are good and should have access"
LOL
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:55 pm to BurningHeart
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Yes I have been to politics board often.
There are nuts on both sides of the spectrum, but the middle ground people are very informed and intelligent on world matters.
If you think there is “middle ground” on that board you have no clue what middle ground is.
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't think you know what either are
Well
She did devise a system that SHE says still allows her and her friends to pool their money to fight for what they believe
Yet seems entirely unaware that this is.........A LOBBY!!
she's an idiot
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:57 pm to ShortyRob
I have not admitted that, I want money to not influence politicians. The "like minded people" can pool their money as in all contribute to a campaign which aligns with their ideas.
Not pool money to go shake down a politician. I mean that could theoretically happen but that isnt the idea I'm trying to convey
Not pool money to go shake down a politician. I mean that could theoretically happen but that isnt the idea I'm trying to convey
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:58 pm to Sneaky__Sally
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I want money to not influence politicians.
So how should politicians be informed?
Posted on 1/5/20 at 8:58 pm to ShortyRob
Again, you are not understanding this mechanism. Also, I'm not a girl. It is a song
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