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Posted on 5/6/18 at 11:03 am to the_watcher
Today, I can't think of one right at this moment in time but as someone supportive of women, I want us to be respected and applauded for our accomplishments as well as be paid accordingly for our work. I don't understand how anyone could be against that.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 12:17 pm to moderate one
quote:those that are think life is a zero-sum game... That equality for women means a decline in status for men
I don't understand how anyone could be against that.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 12:19 pm to moderate one
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as well as be paid accordingly for our work.
Do male teachers make more than female teachers?
Do make day care workers make more than female day care workers?
Etc.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 12:37 pm to moderate one
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as well as be paid accordingly for our work.
The wage gap myth has been disproven time and time again. It’s also illegal. See below
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The Equal Pay Act (EPA) of 1963 is a federal law which prohibits pay discrimination on the basis of gender.
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I don't understand how anyone could be against that.
That’s the whole point. No one is against it. It’s already happening. It’s not brave and powerful to be for something that everyone is already for.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 3:12 pm to the_watcher
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The wage gap myth has been disproven time and time again.
Most of the "proof" that I've seen quoted by the left-leaning MSM points to studies that either rely on fuzzy statistics or include lower paid professions that are female dominant.
My mother is in a nursing home. 95% or more of the CNA staff is made up of young females. They have certificates or associates degrees, but they don't make very much (maybe $12/hr. tops). My facility employs machine operators, and many of them have certificates or associates degrees in machine technology. Their starting pay is $18/hr. Within two years, they're up to about $22/hr. 100% of the operators at this facility are males. I'm not aware that a woman has even applied for one of these jobs since I've been here.
If there was a refusal to hire females as machinists or machine operators, I'd join forces with the most unhinged N.O.W. member out there and fight to correct that wrong. However, if women don't (for whatever reason) apply for jobs in higher paying professions, how the hell is that sexism? But because there's a tendency to use examples like the above to prove the mythical "gender pay gap", I have a tendency to just roll my eyes and keep walking... unless I'm able to see valid data.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 3:25 pm to the_watcher
While we're on the subject, look up Ellen Pao. She's the SJW who claimed gender discrimination against Kleiner Perkins... and lost her court case (because she didn't have a case). It was basically found that she didn't get promotions because she was an abrasive person who generally sucked at her job. No participation trophy for her. Not fair! Not fair!
But that didn't stop the media from taking up her cause. So Reddit put her in as their CEO, where she royally screwed the pooch til even they had to get rid of her. One of her shining moments was eliminating raise negotiations because (as she put it), women aren't as good as men at negotiating for raises... so we aren't going to do that anymore.
My opinion of Mzzzz. Pao is that she is not just full of sexism, but also full of sh##.
I'm 100% for fair and equal treatment. But I'm 100% against those who want special treatment, or want to play the gender/race/religion card when it's convenient.
But that didn't stop the media from taking up her cause. So Reddit put her in as their CEO, where she royally screwed the pooch til even they had to get rid of her. One of her shining moments was eliminating raise negotiations because (as she put it), women aren't as good as men at negotiating for raises... so we aren't going to do that anymore.
My opinion of Mzzzz. Pao is that she is not just full of sexism, but also full of sh##.
I'm 100% for fair and equal treatment. But I'm 100% against those who want special treatment, or want to play the gender/race/religion card when it's convenient.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 3:32 pm to VooDude
Feminism actually used to be relevant, but much like every social issue that accomplishes its goal, it is now an ideology that invents the most contrived nonsense ever in order to keep the outrage machine strolling along.
Posted on 5/6/18 at 5:06 pm to moderate one
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There are really different types of feminists so you can't put us all in one category. You have your leftist feminists as well as those on the right
True enough. But those on the left seem to control the dialogue, demand subservience from all and greatly outnumber even the moderates, and certainly what few there are on the right that can stand to have the label applied to their beliefs (because of the leftist stigma).
You've got people like Camille Paglia, who even if you don't agree with all of her beliefs, she's an extremely intelligent and logical thinker IMO. But when she went to a N.O.W. convention several years ago and tried to ask a question from the audience, Sturmfuhrer Patricia Ireland had them cut her mic off. She doesn't bow down and won't join in with the herd mentality. And I greatly admire her for that alone.
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