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re: Are data centers bad for local communities?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:29 pm to BHM
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:29 pm to BHM
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So Meta is going to spend 12 billion dollars but wants our good citizens to pay for the electricity and water.
Privitize the profits, socialize the losses
Crony Capitalism is alive and well in 2025
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:29 pm to billjamin
Fine. Make it a joint venture.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:35 pm to austin2015
Yes - electricity and water hogs, with minimal to no long term job creation.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:36 pm to austin2015
The day will come that there will be power outages for the people, but the data centers will be running just fine. Guaran damn tee it.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:38 pm to BHM
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If for some reason they shut down the data center, at worse we will be left with practically free power plants that we can use to sell power to the grid.
Define free for those power plants.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:41 pm to goldennugget
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100%
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:46 pm to austin2015
Maybe, maybe not.
But I wouldn't listen to a socialist from Vermont. What the frick does Vermont produce beside maple syrup and fringe leftists?
But I wouldn't listen to a socialist from Vermont. What the frick does Vermont produce beside maple syrup and fringe leftists?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:28 pm to CollegeFBRules
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Define free for those power plants.
Nothings free. These generators, no matter what type, will be owned by banks and investors.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:31 pm to austin2015
Rarely are large developments in any form 'good' for the community. 'The market' based behavior of large corporations will ALWAYS be two or three steps ahead of 'the government' (be it federal, state, or local). Thus, more than likely the community will usually be on the short end of the stick!
Posted on 12/14/25 at 2:59 pm to austin2015
If it increases property taxes for the bad neighborhoods nearby where they can't pay them, lose their homes, and have to move, that's a win.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:16 pm to austin2015
quote:I cringe to admit this, but Bernie might have a point about the extremely high use of electrical energy resources and the effect on the rest of us who also need electricity in that region.
What yall think
My customary view of any comment from BS is just that - BS.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:23 pm to austin2015
I think so. Can’t imagine anything good.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 3:56 pm to austin2015
Will there be 1000s of jobs for Louisianians?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:07 pm to austin2015
I don't how it would lead to cost for other users? Are not the data centers going to be paying for the power they use? If they are given some sweetheart deal where they don't pay for their power, like we do with tax credits to incentivize corporations coming to an area I get it and would agree they are going to cost folks a lot in terms of energy cost.
If they are paying for their power then so what! It would make sense they're going to be paying a lot and it may be that we have to build new power plants, probably not a bad thing in the long run anyways. But the cost of the power they are paying for seems like it would be returned to the company in profits who could then build new plants and improve existing infrastructure etc.
Again, if we giving them some discount or they are offloading the cost to the locals I get it but for now, it seems this issues is just another one that crazy people have been latching onto.
If they are paying for their power then so what! It would make sense they're going to be paying a lot and it may be that we have to build new power plants, probably not a bad thing in the long run anyways. But the cost of the power they are paying for seems like it would be returned to the company in profits who could then build new plants and improve existing infrastructure etc.
Again, if we giving them some discount or they are offloading the cost to the locals I get it but for now, it seems this issues is just another one that crazy people have been latching onto.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:07 pm to austin2015
Probably. By the time you factor in tax breaks and resources, they dont create a lot of jobs for the resources they use.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:09 pm to hansenthered1
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I don't how it would lead to cost for other users? Are not the data centers going to be paying for the power they use?
Commercial PPAs are break even at best. Retail is where they make up the gap.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:11 pm to billjamin
Is this the deal with the data center in north LA?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:13 pm to hansenthered1
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Is this the deal with the data center in north LA?
That one’s even worse because it’s a double super top secret deal that the PUC made. So yeah, it means they’re probably not paying shite.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:15 pm to billjamin
Then it looks like Bernie is right...as shitty as it is to say that. frick him and socialism but esp frick socialism in the form of some sweetheart deal from a conservative state that is hidden to keep people from seeing how screwed they may be.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 4:16 pm to Oneforthemoney
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If it increases property taxes for the bad neighborhoods nearby where they can't pay them, lose their homes, and have to move, that's a win.
People in bad neighborhoods get government help.
Its the middle class who will feel the pain.
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