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Are data centers bad for local communities?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:44 am
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:44 am
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Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:45 am to austin2015
not according to Phil
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:46 am to austin2015
100%
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:46 am to austin2015
In the end they are probably a positive depending on how you define local.
No doubt there are a lot of eggs that have to be broken to get the omelet.
No doubt there are a lot of eggs that have to be broken to get the omelet.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:48 am to fightin tigers
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No doubt there are a lot of eggs that have to be broken to get the omelet.
look at what they bring to the table, total game changer
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:48 am to austin2015
Yes.
Their electricity and water consumption is insane.
Make these companies build their own power plants and figure out how to cool them without excess water usage and Scruffy is all on board.
Their electricity and water consumption is insane.
Make these companies build their own power plants and figure out how to cool them without excess water usage and Scruffy is all on board.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 11:50 am
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:49 am to austin2015
All I know is unicorn farts aren't going to power these data centers. Can't be "green" and have the energy suck of data centers.
Maybe the drive for these centers will welcome in more serious energy production.
Maybe the drive for these centers will welcome in more serious energy production.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:52 am to austin2015
They’re going to consume a lot of water and power. If you don’t have an abundance of those then it’ll be bad.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:52 am to austin2015
The guys on All In talked about this. It depends on the locale. If the local/state government doesn’t negotiate with the tech firms to pay a higher rate for energy, then yes it can be. In areas where it’s negotiated, rates go down for the residents.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:54 am to billjamin
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going to consume a lot of water and power
What is the water consumption part? Do they do some sort of once through cooling and not value a closed system?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:54 am to austin2015
So Meta is going to spend 12 billion dollars but wants our good citizens to pay for the electricity and water.
If for some reason they shut down the data center, at worse we will be left with practically free power plants that we can use to sell power to the grid.
But the liberal loonies want to spin that, stating we will be on the hook for power plants. Like they would just sit there idle.
If for some reason they shut down the data center, at worse we will be left with practically free power plants that we can use to sell power to the grid.
But the liberal loonies want to spin that, stating we will be on the hook for power plants. Like they would just sit there idle.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:56 am to fightin tigers
quote:In order to use a closed loop system, they would have to cool the water, which is likely highly cost prohibitive, so, no, they are “once through”, most likely.
Do they do some sort of once through cooling and not value a closed system?
Saves money…consumes resources.
This post was edited on 12/14/25 at 11:57 am
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:57 am to fightin tigers
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What is the water consumption part? Do they do some sort of once through cooling and not value a closed system?
A lot of it comes from evaporative cooling systems. Then there’s some secondary indirect from the power gen units.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:58 am to Scruffy
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Their electricity and water consumption is insane.
Make these companies build their own power plants and figure out how to cool them without excess water usage and Scruffy is all on board.
This should be the way forwardm
Posted on 12/14/25 at 11:58 am to austin2015
Yes. The electricity requirements overload the system which requires more electric buildout leading to higher consumer costs.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:02 pm to SallysHuman
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Can't be "green" and have the energy suck of data centers.
Sure you can. That's 100% the long term plan as well.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:06 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Sure you can. That's 100% the long term plan as well.
What js the projected timeline of said plan?
When can a town’s citizens expect the water and electricity cost increases to decline?
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:09 pm to austin2015
It depends on whether or not you pay a lot of money in property taxes. If you live in a podunk place and have a lot of property, it can put a serious dent in your property taxes.
Posted on 12/14/25 at 12:10 pm to austin2015
There seems to be a lot of them already but never heard complaints until the Richland and proposed Shreveport ones. I really haven't formed an opinion yet. It sounds really bad but the truth usually lies between two extremes.
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