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re: Apple acts all high and mighty.. Won't turn over password to terrorists iPhone
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:33 am to gmrkr5
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:33 am to gmrkr5
Well it's related to privacy and data collection.
More interesting though. Shows the types of tools out there at company's and the government's disposal.
Thanks for policing though
More interesting though. Shows the types of tools out there at company's and the government's disposal.
Thanks for policing though
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 9:35 am
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:41 am to TigerBait1127
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Well it's related to privacy and data collection.
More interesting though. Shows the types of tools out there at company's and the government's disposal.
Thanks for policing though
i wasnt policing, was just curious how it was relevant to the discussion. i know what spector is and have a good bit of experience with it
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:42 am to CAD703X
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CAD703X
No frick you.
You are one of those morons have no problem with giving up more of your constitutional rights, freedom and privacy to the gov't because of a tragedy.
Never let a tragedy go to waste.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:46 am to WhoDatNC
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Somebody page Anonymous.
Busy destroying Isis
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:51 am to CAD703X
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In the interest of national security I fail to see how Apple can't take the phone and copy the contents to turn over to the FBI.
Because Apple can't access data on iPhones since iOS 8. They couldn't help if they wanted to.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:09 am to MrSmith
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I think so as well
i can start a fire with just some kindling, a single match and no newspaper.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:10 am to CAD703X
Put the CEO in jail for a while. Then we will see how long he believes in the first amendment.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:12 am to Sentrius
I'm actually shocked Apple is standing up to them. Good for them.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:15 am to JBeam
Haven't seen an op get simultaneously owned and shite on in a thread like this in awhile.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:19 am to Deactived
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Haven't seen an op get simultaneously owned and shite on in a thread like this in awhile.
40 upvotes and 38 downvotes
OP still winning
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:21 am to BottomlandBrew
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I'm no Apple fanboy, but I respect their opinion on this.
Yeah, I don't see a problem here.
If the FBI can't get into the phone themselves, I don't think Apple should have any duty to help them unlock information on their devices.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 10:24 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:28 am to Scoop
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Because Apple can't access data on iPhones since iOS 8. They couldn't help if they wanted to.
From my understanding of the issue, the government is effectively asking Apple to push out a update to one specific user of a version of the software (that they would likely have to create just for this purpose) that would provide apple the encryption key or would lower the encryption standard to something that can then be unlocked by brute force.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:28 am to Scoop
oops double posted
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 10:29 am
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:34 am to SECretariat
quote:No. The key is impossible to get. The iOS version would disable the password attempt delay and also disable the feature that erases the phone after X number of attempts.
that would provide apple the encryption key or would lower the encryption standard to something
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:03 pm to TigerBait1127
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Yes, your post is very dumb.
OK, I'll give ya that one.
I actually went and read the letter from Apple. The news story this morning made it sound like they just refused to unlock the actual phone to allow the FBI to examine all data. The explanation that Apple gave was much different. I'm kinda siding on Apple with this one.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:07 pm to CAD703X
it don't pass the smell test
keep your eyes peeled for a new law covering this stuff
keep your eyes peeled for a new law covering this stuff
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:08 pm to CAD703X
Good for Apple.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:08 pm to MrSmith
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that would provide apple the encryption key or would lower the encryption standard to something
No. The key is impossible to get. The iOS version would disable the password attempt delay and also disable the feature that erases the phone after X number of attempts.
isn't this a 5c that is in question that doesn't have the security enclave?
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:13 pm to Boudreaux35
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. The explanation that Apple gave was much different. I'm kinda siding on Apple with this one.
Correct
Posted on 2/17/16 at 12:22 pm to TaderSalad
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Apple products suck. I went through a whole debacle with them and iMessage. Couldnt get messages on a galaxy being a previous iphone owner because when they created iMessage, they tethered it to your phone number rather than an app or phone software.
Long story short, after doing everything they said, I was told that I would have to wait 60 days before I could be certain that all of my text messages were coming through.
That is a MOTHERfrickER to get reset. FYI if you're going from Apple to anything else and use iMessage, make sure you turn that shite off BEFORE YOU get rid of the phone.
I also agree with Apple. Sets bad precedent.
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 12:23 pm
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