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re: Apple acts all high and mighty.. Won't turn over password to terrorists iPhone

Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:13 am to
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91638 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:13 am to
But the FBI uses a battering ram to break down the front door and lead Jared off in handcuffs along with his non-ios-hard drive.

Sucks to not plan your crime hardware
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39421 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:13 am to
God damn you are fricking dense
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 8:14 am
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Like how the court can order you to open up a safe? I would argue the precedent has already been set.


If the person who knows the combination is dead, the court doesn't order the mfg of the safe to open it with a special device that the mfg has created to bypass the combination.

They simply drill right through it with technology created by someone else.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
37751 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:14 am to
quote:

Decades of security and encryption engineering was done for a reason.



oh I get that, but I'd like to think we have someone in our defense dept/NSA who can get past something like this.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:15 am to
quote:

But the FBI uses a battering ram to break down the front door and lead Jared off in handcuffs along with his non-ios-hard drive.
Again, they are free to use a battering ram in this case.
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:16 am to
That's the beauty of encryption
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39421 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:16 am to
We obviously don't or this wouldn't be an issue
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Apple acts all high and mighty.. Won't turn over password to terrorists iPhone



From what I understand the government wants Apple to show them how to get into all Apple phones not just this one terrorist's phone.

I'm with Apple on this one if that's the case.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
8079 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:17 am to
quote:

So FBI can use Cofee (Google it) to break into hard drives of suspected pedophiles to find evidence butiPhones which are also nothing but a fancy hard drive are exempt?

Eta the terrorists have won... Literally



One has nothing to do with the other.

Part of the phones OS is the time limit on passcode lock attempts and the forced wipe of the phone after too many attempts. If those provisions were removed anybody's phone could be unlocked if you were willing to enter 9,999 different codes. Just a matter of time. The phone won't let you do that.

The hard drives you talk about don't have an OS that does this built in.

Posted by recruitnik
Campus
Member since Jul 2012
1223 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:19 am to
So let me get this straight, all of a sudden you anti tyrannical government types want the government to be able to read all of our information just because.

Goddam you people need to stick with what you know which is... well I'm still trying to figure that out.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18927 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:20 am to
You're ignorance and/or stupidity of encryption, particularly the way Apple implemented in these phones, is astounding. You have no clue what you are talking about yet you maintain your opinion is the correct one.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:21 am to
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Didn't the detectives who were investigating La'Ell Collins's girlfriend's death say that Apple said they couldn't even access her phone? What crazy tech.



The crazy thing is the vast number of people in this thread that have zero concept of how search and seizure works.

Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:22 am to
Seriously, you're in the IT security field?
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:23 am to
Hopefully far away from software and security.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15911 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:24 am to
Ah shite that's probably the case I'm thinking of.


Either way, the supreme Court needs to make a ruling on this so that there is more clarity on the issue.

IMO if apple has the means as of now to provide access, they should.

If they don't, they shouldn't be made to create a version that does
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:25 am to
What Apple is doing should not concern you as much as being 3 months into an investigation and the FBI not already having a search warrant for these frickers phones.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91638 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:25 am to
So let me get this straight:

Apple is publicly announcing today that terrorists and other criminals can step up their game if they go ios instead of Windows?

Eta this should help boost their iPhone sales figures in the middle East
This post was edited on 2/17/16 at 8:29 am
Posted by MrSmith
Member since Sep 2009
8319 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:27 am to
The point










Your head
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
18927 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:29 am to
You aren't aware of existing 3rd party software and apps that do the same thing Apple now uses? The ones criminals more knowledgeable than you have been using for years?
Posted by sleepytime
Member since Feb 2014
3857 posts
Posted on 2/17/16 at 8:31 am to
Agree. Apple should stick to their guns on this.
On a side note, I'm certain the gubmint can crack that phone but then they would have to admit to being able to crack iphones and risk another Edward Snowden like shite storm.
They want apple to take the heat over violating customers privacy rights
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