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re: Anyone here work in healthcare Administration?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:32 pm to Lithium
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:32 pm to Lithium
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I've got nothing nice to say about Hospital administrators so I'll pass
This
Even changes that are common sense and simple require going through hours of bullshite with administration.
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:34 pm to lsunurse
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I mean...floor nurses in AZ with experience easily make around 85-90k(not including overtime)...so a manager over them...120k doesn't sound so crazy.
Ah... Makes more sense. Is AZ union like CA? I was thinking LA just due to LSU avatar.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:35 pm to Cosmo
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changes that are common sense
You would need to have common sense to use it
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:35 pm to Lithium
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I've got nothing nice to say about Hospital administrators so I'll pass
I swear they exist solely to make staff's jobs harder. "You need to start doing this as well and no, we're not paying you any more for it."
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 9:37 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:35 pm to Cosmo
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Even changes that are common sense and simple require going through hours of bullshite with administration.
Love the "just change the policy" attitude some have...like it's that simple
Which takes like 6 months to do with all the committees it has to roll through.
I'm learning that many seem to think a lot of stuff is infection control's policy when it is not.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:37 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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Is AZ union like CA?
AZ is not union. West in general pays fairly well in nursing. CA being the highest paid nurses in the U.S.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:39 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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I swear they exist solely to make staff's jobs harder. "You need to start doing this as well and no, we're not paying you any more for it."
You think they just make things up to be a pain in the arse? I’d be willing to bet most of the things they do to “make staff’s jobs harder” are done for compliance/regulatory reasons or are revenue driven.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:40 pm to Boo Krewe
I was, retired 3 years ago. Always wanted to be an Administrator-Director of General Psychiatric Programs (civilly committed persons, some on criminal commitments). Have a Master of Social Work from LSU.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:41 pm to Epic Cajun
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compliance/regulatory reasons
25%
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revenue driven
75%
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:42 pm to Boo Krewe
BS in healthcare admin
Actually started off at $11 an hr wooohoo. I asked for a raise. Didnt get it.
Went back for BSN (best decision I ever made). Moved into management quickly.
Doing MBA now
Actually started off at $11 an hr wooohoo. I asked for a raise. Didnt get it.
Went back for BSN (best decision I ever made). Moved into management quickly.
Doing MBA now
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:43 pm to lsunurse
Possibly ha, just depends on where you are. No one is making up shite just to make the staff’s jobs harder, though
Posted on 7/17/18 at 9:46 pm to Epic Cajun
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No one is making up shite just to make the staff’s jobs harder, though
No but it really feels like it when you are on the short end of the stick in that situation.
Why I left the bedside. Can't beat em? Get the frick away from the bedside. Let someone else deal with the bullshite.
Now I just have to fuss at people to wash their fricking hands
Knowing how docs are ("Show me the evidence") we actually had a resident get pissy one time asking for evidence on handwashing.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 10:34 pm to EarlyCuyler3
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I swear they exist solely to make staff's jobs harder. "You need to start doing this as well and no, we're not paying you any more for it."
This is specific to the healthcare industry?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:01 pm to Boo Krewe
UAB has a master in healtcare admin. Like a hybrid MBA healthcare degree. Those frickers are every where in my MBA classes.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:19 pm to Boo Krewe
The Programs like Clinical Laboratory Sciences (Med Tech) and cardiopulmonary science at the LSU Health Sciences Centers are aggressively seeking students. These are bachelor’s level degrees with graduate options later but the job market is very hot now. Many hospitals paying sign on bonuses and median salary for first five years is around $55,000.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:23 pm to damnedoldtigah
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Did hospital administration for 28 years. Not the cush job some purport it to be. You will make decent money in senior administration of a hospital, but you get used to 50-60 HR weeks and some call.
I guess I didn’t factor in all the time it would take to scroll through each quintuply forwarded email.
Just absolutely grueling.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 11:33 pm to LZ83
Male Occupational Therapist here. Made a career change at 30. Got my Matsters in OT at LSU in Nola. I work with older adults. This is my first year out of school and I easily make more than most of my class because I live in a high demand area and bc I’m a male in a female dominated profession. Shoot me any questions you have. Good luck.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 1:20 am to Epic Cajun
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You think they just make things up to be a pain in the arse? I’d be willing to bet most of the things they do to “make staff’s jobs harder” are done for compliance/regulatory reasons or are revenue driven.
No, I don't. You're right. And I think it's like nurse said.
I do think a lot of them are clueless about how it will affect day to day operations and don't factor those things in appropriately. They either a) didn't ever have to actually get their hands dirty or b) only did it long enough to move up and probably sucked at it when they were doing it. Of course that's just my personal bias. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions. I don't think I'm that far off though.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 2:45 am to Ric Flair
Maybe a low level job in HR.
Posted on 7/18/18 at 7:19 am to EarlyCuyler3
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I do think a lot of them are clueless about how it will affect day to day operations and don't factor those things in appropriately. They either a) didn't ever have to actually get their hands dirty or b) only did it long enough to move up and probably sucked at it when they were doing it. Of course that's just my personal bias. I'm sure there are plenty of exceptions. I don't think I'm that far off though.
I deal a lot with workflow changes/new policy implementation and we always include physician/nurse champions in the conversations to get the perspective of clinicians and how the changes will impact their workflows/job.
On the other hand, I have seen a CFO stand up in front of a group of future providers (my wife was in there) and tell them that they shouldn't spend more than 15 minutes with a patient, which is literally impossible in some fields
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