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re: Anyone here against legalizing marijuana?

Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:58 pm to
Posted by DawgGONIT
Member since May 2015
2961 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:58 pm to
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They talk about "hints" of this and that in the weed, it's "mellowness" and "type" of high you get. They even give it cutesy names.

So because there are hundreds and hundreds of different strains that all vary in degree of smell and taste, that produce a wide range of highs, from giving one an energetic high, to reliving anxiety, to putting one to sleep, and because some people have the awareness to detect the subtleties of the plant, they are annoying 'frickers'?

I guess chefs are annoying frickers too, since they are constantly all about the execution of marrying the various flavors from roots, herbs, leaves, flowers, and meats into seemingly endless dishes. They even call these dishes cutesy names, what figs, amirite?

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Potheads wear there potdom on their sleeves and they treat it like it's some sorta important social cause or whatever.


So making marijuana illegal in 1937 using racial smear campaigns, and then continuing on this lie for almost another hundred years, where to this day the federal government views marijuana as a schedule 1 drug, which by definition has no medical value whatsoever, and also consider how meth, cocaine, and opiates are all schedule 2 or lower, which have some medical value, is not something of importance? The US govt even conducted research on it in 1974 and found that marijuana can kill cancer cells. Yet here we are almost 45 years later and the gov't still denies any medical benefit from marijuana.

Not to mention all the people who have been thrown in jail for committing crimes with no victims. Surely even the most hard headed knuckle head can even admit that spending $32,000 (2015 numbers) a year for imprisoning a person who using marijuana is a waste of tax money (unless you own a share in the privatized for profit prisons), and clogs up the prison/court systems where those resources could be better used on someone committing a real crime that has real victims. Although from the cops perspective, it is easier to just arrest pot heads as they are much easier to deal with than having to deal with thieves, gang members, rapists, murderers, etc who are more likely to fight back against the piggies.

Sorry that you think wasting tax payers money on imprisoning people who use marijuana (victimless crimes) is not some important issue. Not to mention clogging up the court systems, and the police departments where those resources could be better used elsewhere, like cleaning up real crime. I bet you sleep real good at night seeing those college kids get thrown in jail for smoking a joint. Only if they just popped some pills and got black out drunk and all would be good?

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First off, i've never known a pothead that really had his shite together all that well
That is an interesting take, as the first president of the US had grown marijuana and wrote about separating the male and females and the 'blossoming' of the plant. But yeah, no pothead in the history of pot, or heads, have ever had thier 'shite' together. All that well.
Posted by Me so gumpy
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2018
174 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 8:59 pm to
See what i mean.
Posted by Double Oh
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
23423 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:02 pm to
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If you are against it, why? Seems like more and more people are ok with it being legalized.

I don’t smoke but smoking is probably safer than drinking alcohol so I don’t see why it’s not legal.





Legalize it for medical use? Hell yes

Legalize it for recreational use? Hell fukin no

I dont need to be smelling that shite when im walking down the sidewalk
Posted by Me so gumpy
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2018
174 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:21 pm to
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Auto fatalities are up nationwide, it has nothing to do with weed. This us the dumbest argument against legalization that exists.



First of all, i'm not making an argument against legalization. I'm simply passing on the info.

It's not hard to gooble but no matter, here's a sample.

LINK

There's alot of superficial data right now that leans toward legalization being a bad idea and not just behind the wheel.

Personally? I don't care.
This post was edited on 8/5/18 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Topisawtiger
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3680 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:31 pm to
I work in psychiatry and see the effects of drugs and alcohol daily. Yes this is a free country but these substances have ruined many lives. My take is sure legalize it like alcohol but not for anyone under 25. The brain isn't fully developed until then and these substances are very damaging to them. Also do not legalize until a field sobriety test can be developed and we can keep as many stoners off the road as possible. I realize many won't agree but these thoughts come from my experiences. Have a great day.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
297596 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:34 pm to
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Illegal drug prohibition has worked as well as alcohol prohibition did


They mirror each other but people still have their heads in the sand

Most of the danger to society associated with drugs is associated with the black market
Posted by Me so gumpy
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2018
174 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 9:43 pm to
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Also do not legalize until a field sobriety test can be developed and we can keep as many stoners off the road as possible


Maybe you've heard this joke.

What's the difference between a drunk driver and a stoned driver?

A drunk driver runs a stop sign, a stoned driver waits for it to turn green.

Anyway, good luck trying to convince a pothead driving stoned isn't a problem. They think it's just fine and they're married to it.


LINK

Because potheads believe they're better at video games when they're stoned, they also believe they're better at driving when they're stoned and they believe all this shite, because they're stoned.
Posted by EarlyCuyler3
Appalachia
Member since Nov 2017
27290 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:45 pm to
Makes no difference. The issue is that it's absolutely none of the government's business in the first place. Never was, never should be. End of discussion. All the other is just noise.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
61630 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 10:56 pm to
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the first president of the US had grown marijuana

He grew hemp not OG Kush and it didn’t make him a pothead. But why stop at pot, make it all legal. Cocaine, heroin, LSD, Legalize it all.
Posted by Somebody2
Member since Jun 2018
267 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:02 pm to
I'm in favor of it being legalized
Posted by Houma Sapien
up the bayou
Member since Jul 2013
1688 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:04 pm to
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I dont need to be smelling that shite when im walking down the sidewalk


But we have to smell your nasty arse cigarettes?
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53120 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:05 pm to
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Most of the danger to society associated with drugs is associated with the black market

Bingo. The cartels and dealers would go broke if we just legalized drugs
Posted by Bucket
Member since Feb 2011
76 posts
Posted on 8/5/18 at 11:21 pm to
Thank you for an informative, educated post. These pot heads sure get worked up over a mellowing drug. I’m prepared for all downvotes.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9967 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:07 am to
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Thank you for an informative, educated post


Informative and educated because it's lengthy and agrees with your viewpoint, right?

If you actually read and logically consider it (and half the other against posts here), his argument stems on the government saying nooo... marijuana should be illegal because it makes you lazy and lowers testosterone.

Well so do binging Little Debbie cakes. Let's outlaw those too.

Stop trying to make everything fit your bias, and open your mind up.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28009 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:10 am to
I haven’t read the whole thread but IMO there is no reasonable explanation for it to still be a schedule 1 substance. Not one. Turn it into a schedule 4 like benzos. It’s medical purposes are insane and we haven’t even been trying to use it medically for very long... it’s already gone a long way for chronic seizures
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28009 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:12 am to
Opioids are not even in the remote area of THC.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9967 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:16 am to
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Turn it into a schedule 4 like benzos


It's even safer than benzos.

I guarantee you a big reason marijuana is still illegal is from alcohol and tobacco lobbying.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
28009 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 12:18 am to
I agree with you, I just think lowering it from 1 to 4 will happen before it’s legal to by all over the country. I don’t understand America’s obsession with drugs. In Europe I can go to a pharmacy and buy Oxy and Xanax and they don’t have any worse problems than we do with opiates and pills but less people are in jail for drugs
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:22 am to
Hopelessly stupid people.
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 8/6/18 at 2:26 am to
Let's see if alcohol was a factor in any of the fatalities.
I would bet only a very small number involved pot. Besides there's no test for active THC. All they could find out is that someone smoked in the previous 90 days.
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