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re: Anyone have an actual good alternative to the economic system we have created?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:18 am to tigerdude3232
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:18 am to tigerdude3232
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more spread out wealth
Just so I know, where do you live...what city?
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Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Since you've danced around it, what's a better type of system?
Socialism? Communism? More crony capitalism? Free Market capitalism?
Only one gives you tremendous opportunity.
dammit roger stop being communicative and talk shite again
That's my point, non of these systems work for me. But is the opportunity for tremendous personal gain more important than the opportunity for tremendous community gain? community as in your neighborhood or city, not even as large as a state.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:21 am to tigerdude3232
Best economic system the world has ever seen, and this guy is looking for a new model. On the rant, no less.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:21 am to tigerdude3232
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No one said it's bad...At one time cars didn't have a/c. What if they were like look no one else has even has a radio like us, why would they want a/c. be better than the standard
Yes actually you did.
That's my whole point. Take the life of someone today that has a household income of $40k and someone from 25 or 50 years ago that had a household income of $40k.
$40k was a lot more money 25 or 50 years ago, but the person today has a better life. Better medical care, better technology, better car, etc.
So you simply can't say a $40k poor person today has a "bad life" because they are not rich.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:21 am to PrivatePublic
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Can you explain your thinking on this? How is a system that we work most of our existence by far the most moral system?
Because it starts with the most moral assumption of all: nobody is entitled to shite in life.
Work or starve.
so like as if god were a slave master and we have to "produce" to maintain our lives?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:22 am to tigerdude3232
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Take what you can, from whoever you can so you can win
Most of us "earn what we can" not take what we can. That's the difference in our thinking.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:23 am to MardiGrasCajun
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You think LF earned his athleticism by himself lol? Try genes
Leonard could have thrown it all away. Leonard made the "choice" not do so. Genes did not make him make the right choice. Again, it's about people making the right choices in life.
I can promise you someone less athletically gifted worked twice as hard as he did, made the right choices, and still didn't get drafted from that DII school.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:24 am to tigerdude3232
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Take what you can, from whoever you can so you can win
you do realize that in an advanced, service and product based economy, it's more like "provide the best options for consumers to improve their lives by making better products at lower prices than competition", right?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:24 am to tigerdude3232
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I can promise you someone less athletically gifted worked twice as hard as he did, made the right choices, and still didn't get drafted from that DII school.
That person was never meant to be a pro athlete, but with the work ethic they could make a fine architect.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:25 am to MardiGrasCajun
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more spread out wealth
Just so I know, where do you live...what city?
Currently Monroe, grew up in Irving, Plano, Frisco and lived in Baton Rouge, Monroe, San Antonio. I've seen it all
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:25 am to tigerdude3232
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so like as if god were a slave master and we have to "produce" to maintain our lives?
Are you wanting a system where you don't have to produce anything and have a great life?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:25 am to Geauxboy
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Best economic system the world has ever seen, and this guy is looking for a new model. On the rant, no less.
how is it the best exactly?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:26 am to tigerdude3232
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That's my point, non of these systems work for me. But is the opportunity for tremendous personal gain more important than the opportunity for tremendous community gain? community as in your neighborhood or city, not even as large as a state.
In the 1970's, people disillusioned with the current system grouped together in communes, and lived their dreams. There's no reason you can't do that right now with like minded people.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:27 am to tigerdude3232
How is it not? You started this ridiculous thread. The burden is on you. How about you list why its not the best. And take your feelings out of it. Look at it for what it is and what economics is.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:27 am to RogerTheShrubber
Nothing will ever outperform a market, because it is the sum of tens of trillions of choices, responses, and subjective moods of the moment- it is ever flowing, responding, reallocating, and reprioritizing to reflect actual human desires.
Nothing else is even going to come shabbily close.
Nothing else is even going to come shabbily close.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:28 am to baldona
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No one said it's bad...At one time cars didn't have a/c. What if they were like look no one else has even has a radio like us, why would they want a/c. be better than the standard
Yes actually you did.
That's my whole point. Take the life of someone today that has a household income of $40k and someone from 25 or 50 years ago that had a household income of $40k.
$40k was a lot more money 25 or 50 years ago, but the person today has a better life. Better medical care, better technology, better car, etc.
So you simply can't say a $40k poor person today has a "bad life" because they are not rich
are you serious? You think you and MLB players from 1950 have the same quality of life?
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:28 am to tigerdude3232
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I can promise you someone less athletically gifted worked twice as hard as he did, made the right choices, and still didn't get drafted from that DII school.
So what? The opportunity for an education is the priority....not the NFL. Both examples got the educational opportunity to improve their lives. I damn well didn't get a free ride through college.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:29 am to BoardReader
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Nothing will ever outperform a market, because it is the sum of tens of trillions of choices, responses, and subjective moods of the moment- it is ever flowing, responding, reallocating, and reprioritizing to reflect actual human desires.
Nothing else is even going to come shabbily close.
Correct. Without the current system, most of the things people enjoy wouldn't exist, or wouldn't be readily available.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:30 am to tigerdude3232
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so like as if god were a slave master and we have to "produce" to maintain our lives?
There are literally only two alternatives: either someone else produces for you, or you hunt and gather on your own.
You just want a system where someone else produces for you. Man up and admit it, liberal.
Posted on 6/21/18 at 11:30 am to MardiGrasCajun
Who determines what you’ve earned?
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