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re: Anyone got the dreaded yearly escrow letter yet?

Posted on 2/5/25 at 10:11 pm to
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
19189 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 10:11 pm to
Own home still have to pay property tax. I think that sucks, I paid shite off. You never own a damm house.
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4069 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 10:27 pm to
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Decline escrow and pay insurance once a year and you’ll have a consistent mortgage payment.
I love the OT. I never knew this was an option.
This post was edited on 2/6/25 at 6:33 am
Posted by SUG
Member since Nov 2015
653 posts
Posted on 2/5/25 at 10:44 pm to
Yes as former mtg underwriter have 20% to put down and decline escrow. They may try to bump the rate a bit but haggle away and get at a few approvals
Posted by 251TigerFan
Member since Jun 2023
32 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:00 am to
So, your payment has gone up by 18%. Lets say taxes only take up a small portion, we will say insurance has gone up 15%...

How much has your property value gone up? Nat'l average is about 4% a year. If you got a "good rate" then you bought, or financed, likely in 2020 or 2021. I'd be willing to bet your home value has gone up by about......... 20% since then.

I am in no way discounting the insane cost of insurance. But, we cannot have our cake and eat it too. If the value of the home goes up, so will the cost to insure said home... Plain and simple.
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2182 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:02 am to
Nope! made the last payment on my house last October at 39 years old. It's a great feeling.
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
4064 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:03 am to
This is the ot, where everyone is a baller but whines about high insurance and crawfish prices.
Posted by Warfox
B.R. Native (now in MA)
Member since Apr 2017
3516 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:17 am to
Yep, we just pay it separately from mortgage now because it was consistently a short-fall.

Property taxes are absolutely bullsh*t in their current form.

What benefit do I realize just because you say my house is worth 500k that it’s fair to tax me on that valuation when I purchased it for half that only 9 years ago. And now I also have to pay more homeowners because of this.

COSTS for the town have not doubled, so why should my taxes?!?

People in my town are on the verge of pitchforks & torches over this, so hopefully we will see a change soon.



Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:30 am to
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Remember back in the days that when you signed up for a fixed mortgage rate, you were assured that your monthly payment will never go up?


Payments on fixed rate mortgages don't go up.

What went up are your property taxes and / or homeowners' insurance.

Gotta read the fine print.
Posted by Stinger_1066
On a golf course
Member since Jul 2021
2899 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:37 am to
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Try comparing to buying in the early/mid 1980's. That was insanity that most people have forgotten. Especially the entitled youngsters.


I bought my first home in 1986. I went 30 year fixed. The rate was 11.5%.

I knew some people who went with the adjustable rate who ended up getting crushed by the increases.

I knew what my monthly payment was going to be and I budgeted for it. No issues.
Posted by RougeDawg
Member since Jul 2016
6815 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:42 am to
I'm ready for a DOGE effort on parish taxes. Property taxes keep going up and I want to know how much these groups really need to operate.

Example:
$50/year for the "Council on Aging" (whatever the frick that is). Guessing 60,000 households in Livingston Parish paying that...almost $3 million. What are they doing with that money and why I am forced to pay for it?

It looks like the library gets more than Roads!

All the taxes need a reset.


Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
9995 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:44 am to
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We have roughly 50% equity


If you have an FHA loan or have less than 20% LTV, you have to use an escrow account for taxes in insurance, otherwise you don't.

You should be able to easily remove the escrow (without refi) in about 30 days once you ask. Removing escrow gives you back agency, which you seem to lack, "Oh noes, look my payment is going up!" You would have known that if you looked at your tax statements year over year (in my county in TX, you know months in advance) and whenever your insurance came up for renewal (the term of which probably started whatever month you started your mortgage, not on 1 JAN).

There are multitudes of horror stories about escrow companies fricking up estimates, and giving you 30 days notice they want another $4k before 31 December, etc. You're relying on faceless drones to get estimates right, when you can take control of yourself and stop being blind.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10321 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 8:45 am to
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1984: 12.75% interest rate. Crazy.

Actually if you do the math for insurance and property tax on that 1984 mortgage with the 12.75% interest rate, the monthly note it's a lot cheaper than my 2.3% mortgage rate when you factor in today's property tax and insurance rape. Substantially cheaper!
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
9689 posts
Posted on 2/6/25 at 9:01 am to
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Most lenders require those be paid through escrow to my knowledge.


If you put 20% down you can request to not have property tax and insurance in escrow. Depending on lender they might reject or ask you to put down 21-25% and they will allow. Escrows are a complete and total scam. I don't need someone to 'hold' my money for me. I'm completely capable of paying my ins and property taxes myself.
Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
6458 posts
Posted on 2/10/25 at 6:48 am to
Well, you need to factor in 1984 salary versus today’s too.
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