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re: Anyone following the Ray Brandt Estate Saga?

Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:34 am to
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:34 am to
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He just lost his notary title and stamp, that is all.


Y'all are talking about two completely different things. A Notary that fricks up because they are incompetent loses his title and stamp. A Notary that is caught falsifying documents can be criminally prosecuted. Huge difference.

I would love to see the ruling and find out whether the Judge is implying that the Notary made a mistake (Twice? Years apart?) or if the Judge is saying that there was fraud involved.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13492 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:35 am to
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He absolutely was

I have no idea how those wills got thrown out. I was around him sometime around 2019 ish and he was cognizant as could be

Must be some facts that have not made it to the media. How did the Rummel principal get involved as executor? Was that the case in the earlier wills?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
89214 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:36 am to
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A Notary that fricks up because they are incompetent loses his title and stamp.


that's got to be one of the most abused and falsified procedures in the legal system
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58311 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:37 am to
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I can't imagine why she would win that case.


loosiana
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24873 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:37 am to
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Y'all are talking about two completely different things. A Notary that fricks up because they are incompetent loses his title and stamp. A Notary that is caught falsifying documents can be criminally prosecuted. Huge difference.


No sir. He notarized a signature of a person who did not sign it in front of him. The husband forged the ex-wife's name on the document and he notarized it. He was friend's with the husband and trusted that it was her signature.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108836 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:37 am to
There is noway the notary simply "made a mistake"

Its very simple to google and see what is needed specific to Louisiana law

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In addition, the notaries and each of the two witnesses should sign a statement in the following form while the testator, the notary, and the two witnesses are all together:

In our presence the testator has declared or signified that this instrument is his testament and has signed it at the end and on each other separate page, and in the presence of the testator and each other we have hereunto subscribed our names this ____day of _________, ____.
It took me 3 minutes to look up exactly what it takes to make a Louisiana will

Either the notary committed fraud, or one of the kids did and screwed up the fake notary. This isnt a "mistake"
This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 10:38 am
Posted by RummelTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:39 am to
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There is noway the notary simply "made a mistake"


lol...

Yeah, because mistakes don't happen in life. Everything is a conspiracy!!!
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108836 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:41 am to
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Yeah, because mistakes don't happen in life. Everything is a conspiracy!!!
He mistakenly missed the giant clause required by Louisiana law TWICE in 4 years?

Its literally easily found on google, and the give you verbatim the clause that must be in the document. A regular joe shouldnt screw it up, much less an actual notary

LINK

I apologize to the judge from earlier, but he made a correct and obvious ruling here
This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 10:43 am
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:44 am to
All I know, is that you know everything and everyone, so Im just going to defer to you on all things moving forward.

TYFYS...
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108836 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:45 am to
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All I know, is that you know everything and everyone, so Im just going to defer to you on all things moving forward.

TYFYS.
You are welcome

There are very few things required in a Louisiana will. When you google "what is required", this clause clearly comes up

You think it was "accidentally" missed twice?

Its really simply

Form a Last Will in Louisiana

The basic requirements for a Louisiana last will and testament include the following:

quote:

Age and capacity: None specified.

Signature: In the presence of a notary and two competent witnesses, the testator must declare or signify to the witnesses that the document is his Louisiana Last Will and Testament and must sign his name at the end of the document and on each other separate page.

Witnesses: At least two people must sign a declaration signifying that they have witnessed the testator signing the will or declaring the document to be his will. This must be done in the presence of a notary.

Writing: A Louisiana will must be in writing to be valid.
Beneficiaries: Louisiana does not limit the class of beneficiaries who may be included in a will.

This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 10:47 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:45 am to
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A Notary that is caught falsifying documents can be criminally prosecuted.


Thats what Im talking about.....I use notaries all the time and they are scared shitless of the penalties if they dont follow the law of the land....they will not bend the rules for anyone.

I have a few good friends that have a stamp and even they are a little scary sometimes
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:47 am to
Did Ray Brandt sing over power of attorney to the principal at Rummel or anyone else?
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:48 am to
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All I know, is that you know everything and everyone, so Im just going to defer to you on all things moving forward.



Bruh...his dad is a plaintiff lawyer and Pride works in admissions at Ochsner. Of course he knows everything.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108836 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:49 am to
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Bruh...his dad is a plaintiff lawyer and Pride works in admissions at Ochsner.
Neither of these is correct
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
120438 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:50 am to
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sues to have the 2019 and 2015 wills tossed


Maybe I will find the answer when I read through the thread but this is interesting. Are they saying he wasn't fit to make these wills?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108836 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:52 am to
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Are they saying he wasn't fit to make these wills?

No

Louisiana law has some basic requirements for a will to be legal

Somehow, this was missed, twice. What is sad is the family cant get along to figure out what his intent was regardless of the legality of the Will itself. It seems unclear exactly who is to blame for all this
This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 10:53 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40292 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:52 am to
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I'll receive an allotment she already designated for the grandchildren as well as Mom's half. So my dumbass cousins are already crying about it, as they were hoping with my Mom's death my Uncle would inherit the rest (outside of what she set aside for the grandkids) and one of them would end up with the house.


Yikes. No, whatever is in your "column" should stay there. So, when your mom passed (sorry), her share should go to you, and any siblings you have.

If your cousins feel slighted, tell them to tell their dad (your uncle) to take his share and give it to them.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
40292 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:54 am to
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Maybe I'm just not a money hungry bitch, but I would think there would be enough money around to spread to out to keep the old bat secure enough in her lavish livings for her remaining years and still leave the children and grandchildren what he chose to be left to them. I doubt he left her penniless.


Estate valued 300M, but a lot of it locked up in the dealerships from what I understand. That's probably what this is really about, wife wants to control the dealerships (or sell them for the cash)
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106417 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 10:57 am to
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Yikes. No, whatever is in your "column" should stay there. So, when your mom passed (sorry), her share should go to you, and any siblings you have.

If your cousins feel slighted, tell them to tell their dad (your uncle) to take his share and give it to them.


Right. There's been some talk of my Uncle wanting to buy my share so that they can have the house. They weren't real pleased when I expressed that I'd be happy to do so if they pay my share upfront and in full.

It makes me sad for my Grandmother who is having to listen to them bitch about this. It's resulted in her having to start giving us things she wants to make damn sure we'll get before she passes so it doesn't get caught up in some squabble after her death.
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31856 posts
Posted on 2/3/21 at 11:00 am to
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Thats what Im talking about.....I use notaries all the time and they are scared shitless of the penalties if they dont follow the law of the land....they will not bend the rules for anyone.

I have a few good friends that have a stamp and even they are a little scary sometimes


My Ex girlfriend is a notary and this isn't an insignificant I.T. cert that one can watch a few videos on and get the cheat questions.

In LA, it's a massive amount of material and 2 part test. She probably put 500 hours of studying into becoming a notary and the books looked like 2 Bibles.

She takes her job of a notary very seriously and was scared shitless of doing anything risk adverse.

I think in other states, you can take a 2 day class and become a notary. That's not the case here in LA.
This post was edited on 2/3/21 at 11:59 am
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