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re: Anyone built a barndominium?

Posted on 4/19/23 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 4/19/23 at 6:27 pm to
where you at baw, hammond? i have a guy that built one for me in McComb MS area
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Posted by DieSmilen
My Rubbermaid Desk
Member since Dec 2007
1760 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 6:43 pm to
Still wanting to know how they hold up against hurricanes?
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
9236 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 8:27 pm to
Not sure. we are far enough inland to not deal with the severe winds.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
28376 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 8:48 pm to
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But at that point why not build a house?


This wasn't their primary home or even their second home. It was their country fun house. It has a full skate park, BMX dirt track, motorcycle ramps, etc.

Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10580 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 8:54 pm to
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I’m interested in other cons to spray foam.


Oh I love the stuff. As a builder, I would feel I let a customer down if I did not convince them it was a no brainer for any build. The con is exactly what you mentioned. You need to have your HVAC guy dial in the flow of make up air. I prefer they use an adjustable damper. This is even more crucial in humid, coastal environments. While its not that hard to do, you can do a ton damage to a new home if you ignore it/screw it up.

But yeah, to not have soffit and ridge vents moving humid air thru an attic, to have that attic space semi-conditioned, which will extend the life of your water heater and HVAC equipment really is one of the best technologies I have experienced in home building.
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
10046 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:00 pm to
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I've designed 4 in the last year. It only really makes sense economically if the upper floor is under roof


Yea I can kind of see it not making sense if the upper floor is not under roof. That would suck.
Posted by CeauxPilot
Hammond, LA
Member since May 2020
187 posts
Posted on 4/19/23 at 9:08 pm to
Located in Hammond. Building in Loranger. Honest. I really like the look of them regardless of the cost. Finding the financing for it may throw a wrench in but hey. That’s what’s life is about
Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4652 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 1:10 am to
I've been looking into it for my timberland where I want a camp that may become a 2nd home. One estimate just came back at $58k just for site work and an insulated shell (30x48 enclosed pole barn) with a porch, doors and windows. Southeast MS.
Seemed high,I may seek other estimates.

Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:19 am to
My younger brothers FIL just built one on the water
2 br 2 ba with a huge shop, walk in cooler and exposed beam covered parking
It gorgeous and cost about $500k
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:34 am to
Steel is higher than giraffe pussy. Just build a modern contemporary looking house and use wood. Rough lumber super cheap
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11220 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:37 am to
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Still wanting to know how they hold up against hurricanes?


About the same as stick built homes. Most commercial construction in the US is built the same way a barndominium is built. Pour the footings, erect the steel and dry it in. It ain't a lot different than how high rises are built, the only real difference is the footings and the steel used...same basic concept though.

It may well be that they can be dried in and repairs started faster after being damaged by a storm though. The footings and posts tend to be deeper and better designed than the typical foundation of a stick built home. The roof structure will tend to remain intact even though the panels will be in the next county...not so of a stick built building a lot of time. The walls may also tend to blow away quickly or wash away with storm surge thus doing less damage to the underlying structure...kind of like the wash away walls common on the ground floor of houses built on stilts. I don't know if any of that is true but it seems like it makes sense. I do know that the same building that most people would use to build a house is the same building, in principal, that is built for strip centers, retail stores, professional buildings etc and the same type of technology is used in huge industrial facilities and high rise buildings.

The only advantage, and the reason they are so common in commercial building, is that they can dried in much faster, with a cookie cutter design, than a comparable stick built building with the added caveat that the interior is much easier to remodel and configure because there is no need for load bearing walls. The same thing can be accomplished with trusses and engineered wood floor joists but the steel version is slightly quicker to assemble.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11220 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:49 am to
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I've been looking into it for my timberland where I want a camp that may become a 2nd home. One estimate just came back at $58k just for site work and an insulated shell (30x48 enclosed pole barn) with a porch, doors and windows. Southeast MS.
Seemed high,I may seek other estimates.


"Pole Barn" construction is another way to go and can typically be dried in slightly quicker than traditional stick building. The same thing applies to all construction methods though, the foundation is about the same no matter what and the interior finishes are about the same...the only difference is stick built construction takes a little more time to dry in than free standing steel or pole construction. The difference in time in residential construction is not significant and its only significance in commercial or industrial construction is in allowing more flexibility in reconfiguring interior finishes and lay out as needs change and being able to offer an empty spec building which can be finished to fit the needs of the end user.

There is a reason the stick built process is prevalent in the uber competitive tract home building industry...it is cost effective and well known...and mortgage companies have been lending money on those homes for a LOOOOOONNNNNGGGGGG time...and insurance companies have been insuring them just as long. Most home buyers expect a house to be built with dimensional lumber...the market for buyers is far deeper than those willing to buy other styles of construction.

On top of this I don't think we know the true cost of building the number of homes needed to satisfy market demand with different technologies. What is the energy and carbon effect of making enough steel to come close to the number of evergreen trees used to meet that demand? I seriously doubt if the number of homes built like a shop will come close to being comparable to stick built homes any time soon for a myriad of reasons but making steel is not a small undertaking...growing trees is also no small task but it is an accepted practice that may be hard to overcome even if it is preferable.
Posted by LSUMANINVA
West Virginia
Member since Sep 2004
8632 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:50 am to
I built one. It was a little crooked so I tore it down.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8380 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:57 am to
Best I got is you save on property tax in Texas. The county only sees a metal building on Google Earth (assuming your barndo is plenty far back from the main road). If they see a nice looking home via Google Earth, get ready for that assessment.
Posted by Statestreet
Gueydan
Member since Sep 2008
13769 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 6:59 am to


Quonset Hut- can hold up through hurricanes
Posted by ConfusedHawgInMO
Member since Apr 2014
3578 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 7:52 am to
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“Barndominium” is a made up word.


At some point every word was made up.
Posted by CajunMexican
Geismar
Member since Oct 2017
94 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:47 am to
I know someone with a smaller bardo that's a camp/shop on hunting property in east Texas built about 12 years ago. 30 x 60 overall with 1/2 of it being built out as 2 bedroom, 1 bath living quarters. It can barely be seen from the rural county road it's on. A few months ago they happened to be there just cleaning up, bush hogging, etc. and a car drove up. Out steps a tax assessor just riding around comparing what they have on record vs. what's in Google Earth vs. what he sees from the road. He took measurements and pictures and said he was going to have to update their records.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
9472 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 9:56 am to
here is an awesome Barndominium pictural with tons of pics

40x60x16 with two 24x60 lean to's

20x40 apt with loft over head






Posted by White Bear
Yonnygo
Member since Jul 2014
16300 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 10:00 am to
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Still wanting to know how they hold up against hurricanes?
Portions of the roof and walls will be tightly wrapped around any nearby remaining trees.
Posted by evil cockroach
27.98N // 86.92E
Member since Nov 2007
8380 posts
Posted on 4/20/23 at 12:13 pm to
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It can barely be seen from the rural county road it's on. A few months ago they happened to be there just cleaning up, bush hogging, etc. and a car drove up. Out steps a tax assessor just riding around comparing what they have on record vs. what's in Google Earth vs. what he sees from the road. He took measurements and pictures and said he was going to have to update their records.
oh hell naw, time to lawyer up.
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