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re: Anyone believe Jim Garrison’s JFK assassination conspiracy?

Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:02 am to
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:02 am to
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Such as....? What a useless post.


Warmongers like LBJ, the military industrial complex, armaments manufacturers, etc wanted to go hardcore in Vietnam while JFK wanted to pull out. They were also still salty about the Bay of Pigs failure. Hence once LBJ became president, the Gulf of Tonkin was essentially the Reichstag fire to give the US the casus belli to fully commit to the Vietnam War.
Posted by Crow Pie
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:04 am to
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Why?
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it sure seemed quite plausible that the CIA, or the mafia, or Cuba, or Russia, or Johnson could have been behind it.
How many people do you know that has such wide variability of ties to those listed above that was conveniently executed by another known Mafia related thug?
Posted by BugAC
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:04 am to
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Warmongers like LBJ, the military industrial complex, armaments manufacturers, etc wanted to go hardcore in Vietnam while JFK wanted to pull out.


You literally pulled that strictly from the movie. It's a movie, not factual.

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Hence once LBJ became president, the Gulf of Tonkin was essentially the Reichstag fire to give the US the casus belli to fully commit to the Vietnam War.



Posted by Jack Bauer7
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:05 am to
i believe Jesse Ventura's conspiracy theory on JFK
Posted by GetCocky11
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:05 am to
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God only knows what happened that day.


Except we have a video of him getting shot in the back of the head.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:05 am to
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Warmongers like LBJ, the military industrial complex, armaments manufacturers, etc wanted to go hardcore in Vietnam while JFK wanted to pull out. They were also still salty about the Bay of Pigs failure. Hence once LBJ became president, the Gulf of Tonkin was essentially the Reichstag fire to give the US the casus belli to fully commit to the Vietnam War.



This. Also the demonization of the alphabet communities,CIA etc..

also JFK wanted to audit the Federal Reserve.

He was upsetting the apple cart of the elite.
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:06 am to
That’s a good boot licker.
Posted by georgia
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:07 am to
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Anyone believe Jim Garrison’s JFK assassination conspiracy?



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Garrison died of cancer in 1992, survived by his five children.


Nope.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:07 am to
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wanted to go hardcore in Vietnam while JFK wanted to pull out.


Here is where this was fabricated.

From Movie

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National Security Action Memorandum 263 was first step in total U.S. withdrawal from Vietnam.


In reality

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Document foresaw the withdrawal of only 1,000 advisors, and not even those if South Vietnamese failed to "take up the slack."

Link to memorandum

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Note that the 1,000 troop withdrawal was based on the notion that "the U.S. program for training Vietnamese should have progressed to the point where 1,000 U.S. military personnel assigned to South Vietnam can be withdrawn." The assumption was that the South Vietnamese could — indeed were — learning to take over their own defense.


Posted by iAmBatman
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:10 am to
You think the Earth is 6,000 years old. Your opinion doesn’t mean shite.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:10 am to
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Except we have a video of him getting shot in the back of the head.


But, you don't. Why, because "back and to the left"?

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But he also noted that observers had missed one vital part of the evidence: the forward head snap at the moment of the fatal bullet impact. When analyzed using fundamental classical mechanics, the forward head snap, which is visible in the Zapruder film, provides proof that JFK was shot in the head from behind.


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He developed a simple one-dimensional gunshot wound dynamics model to explain the movements observed in the film. The model makes explicit calculations of the forward head snap that occurred before JFK’s head moved back and to the left after the gunshot. To do this, the model uses known parameters from the crime scene, including bullet mass, speed, and diameter, camera shutter frequency and autopsy measurements. This is the first time this aspect of the case has been considered so thoroughly and quantitatively.

The calculations show quantitatively that JFK’s reactions after being shot in the head, as seen in the film, are physically consistent with a gunshot wound caused by a high-energy Carcano military rifle (the evidence rifle owned by Lee Harvey Oswald) fired from the vicinity of the Texas School Book Depository building (where Mr. Oswald worked) located behind the motorcade.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 10:12 am
Posted by 225bred
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Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:10 am to
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Government conspiracy killed JFK, there were three shooters at Dealey Plaza and Oswald wasn’t one of them. It was a covert coup d’etat like the CIA did in other countries.



The CIA, especially in the 60's, coming off their transition from the OSS, was ABHORRENT.

A truly vile organization who had zero accountability and virtually unlimited resources for their pet projects.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:13 am to
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The CIA, especially in the 60's, coming off their transition from the OSS, was ABHORRENT.

A truly vile organization who had zero accountability and virtually unlimited resources for their pet projects.


Definitely. And of course the FBI under Hoover. Way different than today.
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:15 am to
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See Gavrilo Princip or John Wilkes Booth


Who both were part of larger conspiracies.
Posted by 225bred
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:17 am to
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Definitely. And of course the FBI under Hoover. Way different than today.



That era of intelligence has always fascinated me.

The lawlessness of it all, MK Ultra, the audacity to do what they did... still astonishing.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:18 am to
Do you think Clay Shaw was Clay Bertrand?
Posted by rilesrick
Member since Mar 2015
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:18 am to
If you’ve been to the museum. The much easier shot was when they slowed to make the turn right in front of window. The obvious reason to wait till the shite going away angle was to incorporate the crossfire from the other shooter.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:22 am to
More truth than fiction
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:22 am to
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Why?
Really...this is the bullet that did this?
Posted by Emteein
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:27 am to
The movie makes a great story, but that's all, a good story. After visiting the book depository a few years back, and watching the zapruder film again, there is no question lee harvey shot JFK. The distances in real life are so close, i believe you could've trained a monkey to pull off the shot from the book depository.
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