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Anybody still taking the ATFs side on Waco or Ruby Ridge
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:36 pm
I always knew Waco was one ducked up operation and deal. The Branch Dravidian’s were tipped off and he was “end times” guy so it was ridiculously stupid. On Netflix show one of the ATF guys just said he couldn’t believe it was still go and still pissed off about today. IF I remember correctly the same idiot FBI or ATF agent was in charge of both operations.
I am not defending Korush, who was obviously a religious nut, but everything I have ever read indicates that this could have been handled differently with no bloodshed. Hell, the local sheriff said he could get him to voluntarily come in but the ATF wanted a big show.
That idiot got those poor ATF agents and eventually all those women and children killed. He should have been prosecuted and certainly would be today.
I think this maybe the mfer Bob Ricks
I am not defending Korush, who was obviously a religious nut, but everything I have ever read indicates that this could have been handled differently with no bloodshed. Hell, the local sheriff said he could get him to voluntarily come in but the ATF wanted a big show.
That idiot got those poor ATF agents and eventually all those women and children killed. He should have been prosecuted and certainly would be today.
I think this maybe the mfer Bob Ricks
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 9:46 pm
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:37 pm to TutHillTiger
No
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:38 pm to TutHillTiger
quote:
and certainly would be today
Are you sure about that?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:39 pm to TutHillTiger
Lakeboy about to come at you baw
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:39 pm to TutHillTiger
I would climb Michael Shannon like a tree FWIW
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:40 pm to TutHillTiger
The OP did to grammar what the ATF did to Waco.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:44 pm to TutHillTiger
100 years from now they will build Timothy McVeigh statues.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:47 pm to Rebel
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100 years from now they will build Timothy McVeigh statues.
Hope not. While I'm definitely a "frick the ATF" kind of guy, he killed small children in a daycare.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:48 pm to TutHillTiger
Dude, are you second guessing Janet Reno? Come on man.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:50 pm to Rebel
Yeah, I lot of people don’t understand that the FBI agent in charge of both Ruby Ridge and Waco was stationed on OKC which is why McVeigh chose that target, so really that agent is also responsible for those deaths too.
That makes him the biggest child murderer in history, starting with Randy Weaver’s teenage son.
I don’t think anything ever happened to him other then Jerry Spence waxed his arse in his depo and in that trial and the civil one.
That makes him the biggest child murderer in history, starting with Randy Weaver’s teenage son.
I don’t think anything ever happened to him other then Jerry Spence waxed his arse in his depo and in that trial and the civil one.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:50 pm to TutHillTiger
I hold the same opinion the ATF as I do of other “law enforcement” agencies such as the FBI, KGB and Gestapo. They’re all cut from the same cloth.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:53 pm to Rebel
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100 years from now they will build Timothy McVeigh statues.
frick that and frick you. That POS was a child murderer.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:54 pm to Darth_Vader
If I remember correctly the mfer in charge wanted a political career so he was looking for some big PR stunt arrest etc to further that.
Koresh had an agreement to surrender but the mfer stepped on that
Koresh had an agreement to surrender but the mfer stepped on that
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:54 pm to TutHillTiger
David Koresh, while a POS, was the ultimate government troll.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:55 pm to TutHillTiger
Why do I have to pick a side? Both sides were lead by human scum.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:55 pm to TutHillTiger
ATF is a relic of the days of Dillinger and Capone and should be eliminated.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 9:58 pm to BabyTac
Yeah, he thought he was a new messiah but there is no law against thinking that. In a way this was really the start of American Militia movement.
The firearm violations were bullshite and so what if they have million, I probably have 30-50,000.
The child sex is what I have a problem with
The firearm violations were bullshite and so what if they have million, I probably have 30-50,000.
The child sex is what I have a problem with
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:07 pm to TutHillTiger
Kehoe actually was charged with obstruction of Justice in Ruby Ridge, great article on that. The government paid 10 million on the debacle. They were facing 100s of millions in damages in Waco so you can imagine the cover up on that one.
Charges over Ruby Ridge
Charges over Ruby Ridge
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:10 pm to TutHillTiger
Ruby Ridge was all Bill Barr.
The beautiful Janet Reno wasn’t involved with that cluster.
The beautiful Janet Reno wasn’t involved with that cluster.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 10:11 pm to Rebel
That’s that mfers name Bill Barr
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