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re: any young earth creationists on the OT?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:47 pm to Peazey
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:47 pm to Peazey
It's funny that when science doesn't fit what you believe, then you fall back on philosophy, which is basically putting your faith into something that you cant prove.
Isn't that the same argument you atheists use so often against Christians?
And this hasn't been a "hotly debated topic for millennia". Up until the last hundred years or so, it was accepted by 99% of the population worldwide that there is a creator. The "there is no God" stupidity is really very new, and came about by people who thought they were smarter than the millions of millions of people who had lived their lives for thousands of years beforehand that knew and was able to see evidence all around them that God does exist and created everything.
So, who's really the pompous know-it-alls perverting science and shooting philosophical blanks? "Creationists" or atheists?
Isn't that the same argument you atheists use so often against Christians?
And this hasn't been a "hotly debated topic for millennia". Up until the last hundred years or so, it was accepted by 99% of the population worldwide that there is a creator. The "there is no God" stupidity is really very new, and came about by people who thought they were smarter than the millions of millions of people who had lived their lives for thousands of years beforehand that knew and was able to see evidence all around them that God does exist and created everything.
So, who's really the pompous know-it-alls perverting science and shooting philosophical blanks? "Creationists" or atheists?
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:48 pm to Darth_Vader
In the beginning, God created man in His image, and man returned the favor.
*reaches for fedora*
*reaches for fedora*
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:48 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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sumtimeitbeslikedat
I admire your trolling in this thread. It's solid work.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:48 pm to cubsfan5150
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cubsfan5150
Found the creationist
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:49 pm to LSUBoo
Dude the more I think about it, this might be fertile ground to start a new religion on. Everybody likes to think that they're smarter than their boss, we could just play on that instinct. The church of the idiotic dummy God. We love him even if he is a little dim.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:50 pm to Honky Lips
This is a worthless discussion because everyone will argue their point and its not like anyone is doing anything constructive.
With that said, we live in a country where people can believe anything they want and who am I or anyone else to tell them what they believe is wrong?
This is what I believe. Having gone to Catholic school in middle school, I became more familiar with the bible and even then I had a hard time believing the old testament. Kids would always ask questions like "so you are telling us God created the world, but two humans on it and then put the future of the world on those two humans. Just because they ate the apple every human ever has to live in sin?" or "So how did Noah find animals that were not even in that region? There were a lot of animals that were not discovered yet, but somehow he was able to get two of every animal".. I remember our religion teacher having to stop class one day and tell everyone that you can't take the old testament so literal. It was "parables" used to get a point across.
As for as the new testament, I just can't subscribe 100% to it. I don't know what parts are true, if any. I just know the bible was put together several 100 years after Jesus supposedly died. Imagine trying to write about a story that happened 50 years ago when all you had to go by were witnesses of that story? You could probably get many things accurate, but it would be far from 100% accurate.
What about a story that happened 300 or 400 years earlier? And all you have to go by, is words written by others in which those words had to be translated? Not to mention, not all of the scriptures were put in the bible. There is a lot to question..
So my belief is, there is some type of higher power, I just don't know in what form it is in. I don't belief in religion in terms of which religion is "the right religion" or that in order to live a perfect afterlife you have to be in a religion... whatever. Life is too complex for things to be that black and white when we die.
So yeah, to those who think I am wrong and it bothers you, look, I respect what you believe in and nothing you can tell me will change my mind. For those who think "there is no higher power at all, you are stupid".. I respect what you believe in, but if you feel like you have to challenge what I do believe in.. frick you... I don't really care.
With that said, we live in a country where people can believe anything they want and who am I or anyone else to tell them what they believe is wrong?
This is what I believe. Having gone to Catholic school in middle school, I became more familiar with the bible and even then I had a hard time believing the old testament. Kids would always ask questions like "so you are telling us God created the world, but two humans on it and then put the future of the world on those two humans. Just because they ate the apple every human ever has to live in sin?" or "So how did Noah find animals that were not even in that region? There were a lot of animals that were not discovered yet, but somehow he was able to get two of every animal".. I remember our religion teacher having to stop class one day and tell everyone that you can't take the old testament so literal. It was "parables" used to get a point across.
As for as the new testament, I just can't subscribe 100% to it. I don't know what parts are true, if any. I just know the bible was put together several 100 years after Jesus supposedly died. Imagine trying to write about a story that happened 50 years ago when all you had to go by were witnesses of that story? You could probably get many things accurate, but it would be far from 100% accurate.
What about a story that happened 300 or 400 years earlier? And all you have to go by, is words written by others in which those words had to be translated? Not to mention, not all of the scriptures were put in the bible. There is a lot to question..
So my belief is, there is some type of higher power, I just don't know in what form it is in. I don't belief in religion in terms of which religion is "the right religion" or that in order to live a perfect afterlife you have to be in a religion... whatever. Life is too complex for things to be that black and white when we die.
So yeah, to those who think I am wrong and it bothers you, look, I respect what you believe in and nothing you can tell me will change my mind. For those who think "there is no higher power at all, you are stupid".. I respect what you believe in, but if you feel like you have to challenge what I do believe in.. frick you... I don't really care.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:50 pm to LucasP
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Dude the more I about it, this might be fertile ground to start a new religion on. Everybody likes to think that they're smarter than their boss, we could just play on that instinct. The church of the idiotic dummy God. We love him even if he is a little dim.
I'm pretty sure you just described LSU Football.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:50 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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Up until the last hundred years or so, it was accepted by 99% of the population worldwide that there is a creator.
:Golfclap:
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:52 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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came about by people who thought they were smarter than the millions of millions of people who had lived their lives for thousands of years beforehand
Yes, I think im smarter than people that lived thousands of years ago
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:53 pm to Darth_Vader
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Can anyone point to the book, chapter, and verse in the Bible where it claims the Earth is 6,000 years old? Or even where it says anything about the age of the earth??
No, they can't, but I have heard more than one preacher say that and argue that 6000 years is the correct age of the Earth. Which is why I quit going to church. Why sit somewhere and be lied to by someone who then asks you for money?
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:54 pm to LucasP
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Dude the more I about it, this might be fertile ground to start a new religion on. Everybody likes to think that they're smarter than their boss, we could just play on that instinct. The church of the idiotic dummy God. We love him even if he is a little dim.
Im in but it needs to be fleshed out. Also, since i kinda started it do we get to be like disciples? Saints? Demi-Gods to the Dummy God?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:54 pm to LSUBoo
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I'm pretty sure you just described LSU Football.
So we know there's a market for it!!!
Anybody wanna join Lucas's awesome new church of the all powerful idiot? All the comforts of religion and all the condescension of atheism!! It's the best of both worlds!!!
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:55 pm to Hester Carries
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Yes, I think im smarter than people that lived thousands of years ago
...aaaannndd there's your problem.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:56 pm to Hester Carries
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Im in but it needs to be fleshed out. Also, since i kinda started it do we get to be like disciples? Saints? Demi-Gods to the Dummy God?
I like your style. Let's do some brainstorming and meet up in a few days with some ideas. This is gonna be the best religion ever!!
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:57 pm to LucasP
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All the comforts of religion and all the condescension of atheism!! It's the best of both worlds!!!
Will there be wine?
Copious amounts of wine?
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:57 pm to LucasP
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I like your style. Let's do some brainstorming and meet up in a few days with some ideas. This is gonna be the best religion ever!!
They will sing songs about this meeting we are going to have. Stuff of legends!
Posted on 1/13/17 at 12:58 pm to LSUBoo
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Will there be wine?
Wine and whine.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:02 pm to LSUBoo
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Will there be wine?
Copious amounts of wine?
You're goddamn right there will be!! And since kiwis kinda got this started, I think we should treat them like Hindus do cows. Think of it, every church would have one of these goofy bastards waddling around.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:04 pm to LucasP
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And since kiwis kinda got this started, I think we should treat them like Hindus do cows.
I hereby vow to never eat a Kiwi!!!!
Posted on 1/13/17 at 1:10 pm to sumtimeitbeslikedat
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It's funny that when science doesn't fit what you believe, then you fall back on philosophy, which is basically putting your faith into something that you cant prove.
What does this even mean? What are you talking about? What science? You are so incoherent that I know that I am just wasting my time. You never made any scientific point. The crux of these discussion goes so far over your head that it is like talking to a toddler.
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And this hasn't been a "hotly debated topic for millennia". Up until the last hundred years or so, it was accepted by 99% of the population worldwide that there is a creator.
You are so ignorant. It's like people like Thomas Aquinas, St. Augustine, Socrates, Plato, never existed. They never struggled over these ideas in their attempts to conceptualize the world and construct proofs for God. What were they even wasting their time with writing on these ideas if they were just accepted facts?
I'm not even an atheist. It's just that an intelligent approach to these ideas is so far removed from you that you that in your anti-intellectualism you can't help but associate it with your anathema.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 1:12 pm
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