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re: Any true crime cold cases interest you, involve or bother/terrify you?

Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by DabbyDoo84
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 6:57 pm to
My mom always brings that one up. Crazy that they have never solved this case. Her poor family needs closure
Posted by Klingler7
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 7:15 pm to
I am not an evil person or murderer but I always found serial killers interesting. How individuals could kill people and butcher their bodies as if possessed by Satan. No respect for human life. It boggles my mind how a killer thinks and why he seeks pleasure in such things. Scary !
Posted by DabbyDoo84
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 8:05 pm to
The Camp Scott Girl Scout murders. Heartbreaking.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 9:27 pm to
The Keddie Cabin murders really give me the creeps. That it’s so random and could happen to anyone out in the woods camping is what gets me.
Posted by tigerpimpbot
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 9:54 pm to
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I am not an evil person or murderer but I always found serial killers interesting. How individuals could kill people and butcher their bodies as if possessed by Satan. No respect for human life. It boggles my mind how a killer thinks and why he seeks pleasure in such things. Scary !


That’s why I’m loving Mindhunter. Just started S2
Posted by toddzilla
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:38 pm to
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Vidor, TX billboards come to mind.


Came here to post this. Cold Justice did an episode on it last year. Southern Fried True Crime did an episode on it as well. She goes into a lot more detail that will lead you to believe that her husband did it.
Original OT thread.
This post was edited on 8/19/19 at 11:45 pm
Posted by Mr Personality
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 11:43 pm to
It was weird how Brandy Wells with reportedly no gasoline drove 45 miles to Longview TX and then just vanished
Posted by JuiceTerry
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:03 am to
One of my good friends was murdered about 15 years ago

Technically, it's a cold case, but most everybody knows who the players were

Small town, good ol boy money goes a long way in certain places like Macon County, Alabama

There's also a pretty famous cold case involving a girl whose brother I was good friends with about 10 years before the other one

My first friend was found, this girl vanished
This post was edited on 8/20/19 at 12:07 am
Posted by DArbonneDuke
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Posted on 8/20/19 at 12:31 am to
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 5:26 pm to
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In the most gruesome part of the Dyatlov pass incident, Dubnina was missing her tongue, eyes, part of the lips, as well as facial tissue and a fragment of her skull bone.


Relates to prior post:

https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/2019/08/mysterious-oregon-cattle-killings-mutilations-alarm-ranchers.html


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Mysterious Oregon cattle killings, mutilations alarm ranchers
Updated Aug 22, 4:38 PM; Posted Aug 22, 12:29 PM


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by the time ranch hands discovered four more dead bulls within 24 hours, they knew they were likely dealing with deliberate, premeditated killings.

They’re still baffled by the circumstances. There were no wounds. No signs of a struggle. And the bulls’ genitals and tongues had been carefully removed.

The killing and mutilation of the 4 and 5-year-old Hereford bulls in the prime of their productive lives has since spurred a multi-agency investigation in eastern Oregon, but detectives have turned up no leads and haven’t yet even settled on a cause of death.




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“How somebody put these bulls on the ground at what would be arguably a fairly close range — and to do it in a way that didn’t leave any signs, no trace evidence, no footprints, no struggle marks from the animal, no broken limbs — I have no idea,” said Colby Marshall, vice president of the Silvies Valley Ranch.

The mystery deepens because there’s no obvious reason someone would want those animal parts. They aren’t prime targets for black market sales, authorities said.

The deaths are eerily similar to a rash of livestock killings and mutilations across the West in the 1970s, when hundreds of cows and bulls turned up dead, also of seemingly unknown causes and with their genitals and tongues missing.


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Jenkins, the lead investigator on the case, said the lack of physical evidence at the crime sites — no footprints, no tire or ATV tracks — means authorities are relying on witnesses to call in to the tip line and report any suspicious activity they might have seen in the area.


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Taking down a 2,000-pound bull is no easy feat, and Marshall said there were no signs of a struggle — the bulls were all lying on their sides as if they had just fallen over and died.




https://www.capitalpress.com/ag_sectors/livestock/death-mutilation-of-bulls-in-harney-county-spurs-probe/article_3a14d69a-b545-11e9-a801-8bf4f250c206.html

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Investigation continues in death, mutilation of bulls By SIERRA DAWN McCLAIN Capital Press
Aug 7, 2019


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As an isolated incident, the case might appear a strange fluke. But according to the FBI, thousands of killings and mutilations of cows have happened since the 1970s. The animals typically die in the same way with the same body parts removed. Jenkins said it’s hard to tell how these five bulls died. There are no entry wounds. A metal detector scan revealed no bullets. According to National Weather Service data, the past month has had no major lightning storms in the area that could have killed cattle. Based on the lunar calendar from the 2019 Farmer’s Almanac, the deaths could not have happened during a full moon. Colby Marshall, vice president of Silvies Valley Ranch, said there were no outward signs of a struggle — no rope burns on trees, no scattered hoof prints, no strangulation marks, no blood. The bulls, he said, look like they simply fell over and died.


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Marshall said that even though livestock workers are on the property with the cattle every day, it’s a rough, forested terrain so it’s understandable that the bulls weren’t found for a few days. “People always seem surprised that a cattle rancher wouldn’t notice some of his animals are dead right away,” said Jerome Rosa, executive director of the Oregon Cattlemen’s Association. “What they don’t realize is the enormity of these properties. Unless you’re in a plane or helicopter, you can’t see everything that’s happening.”


The bolded above is an important consideration...

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According to Rosa of the OCA, it’s not unusual to find small body parts missing in natural predatory cases. When coyotes and wolves find a carcass, Rosa said, they often go for the easy pickings first, chewing off parts like testicles and tongues. What’s strange about this case is that the areas with missing parts don’t appear to have been chewed. Jenkins, the deputy, said the wounds, when examined, appeared clean-cut. “The parts were definitely cut out with a sharp blade,” he said. “There weren’t any signs of predatory eating or chewing. They were cut out by at least one person.”


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“Whenever there’s a case like this, all the conspiracy theorists come out,” said Jenkins. “Some say it was done by aliens. Others say it’s a cult doing a satanic practice. Some even think it’s the government. It’s a little ridiculous. I’m confident some person or group did this, and we’re trying to get to the bottom of it.”


Someone who gets their kicks:

Mutilating cattle genitalia
Since at least the 70s
In remote, harsh environment
Leaving no traces
Knocking over bulls without an obvious source

I will speculate in a different thread what we are dealing with (as folks have not liked it when I speculated on other topics in the past...)

I will leave you with this to ponder...

This post was edited on 8/23/19 at 5:40 pm
Posted by Vette
Member since Aug 2009
178 posts
Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:23 pm to
Jennifer Kesse. Bothers me this has never been solved. There’s also a missing UF co-ed from early 90s/late 80s also with no answer. Guess these stick out since I’m familiar with the areas where they were last seen. Blows my mind someone could just vanish.
Posted by Lsupimp
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Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:53 pm to
I grew up with a girl named Tina Kristynik. I drove her to school every day. She was a friend- a wild child - a tough girl- but very sweet. She was murdered in 1985. I felt like her ex boyfriend might have done it. He was also a friend but violence-prone. It went unsolved for 22 years until there was a DNA hit out of the Ga prison system for a murderer there.

Currently The 2018 Delphi Bridge murders , the 2007 Boca Raton Mall murders and the 2008 Lane Bryant murders are the one that piss me off the most.
Posted by baseballcatch77
Dallas
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/24/19 at 7:32 am to
American Dyatlov Pass is interesting. California: 5 friends drive to a nearby town to a basketball game and disappear.
Months later car is found 100 miles away on a mountainside. Bodies of 4 of the men are found in a remote cabin miles away from car.
They were alive after reaching cabin. Cabin had heat (never turned on) and unopened food. At least 1 starved to death. Others died outside near the cabin.
4 of the 5 were developmentally challenged; but high functioning. 1 was an army vet. Odd stuff.

American Dyatlov Pass
This post was edited on 8/24/19 at 7:42 am
Posted by PacoPicopiedra
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Posted on 8/24/19 at 8:12 am to
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I did not agree with them on Hinterkaifeck- it was way too much later, and I had the feeling they just tacked that on as a marketing ploy.


Yeah, I think you're probably right about that.
Posted by TexasTiger13
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2014
488 posts
Posted on 9/21/19 at 12:30 am to
Watching the Showtime show “Murder in the Bayou” now. It is about these murders. So far it seems like the police were involved or at least in the coverup. Crazy stuff.
Posted by SeeeeK
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Posted on 9/21/19 at 1:05 am to
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Any true crime cold cases interest you, involve or bother/terrify you?


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Posted by 337Tigah
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Posted on 9/22/19 at 9:13 am to
Wasn't there a dude in BR who claimed the Zodiac Killer was his biological father? Wonder what happened with that.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 9/22/19 at 12:52 pm to
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There's lots of theories about who the killer may have been, but no definitive proof, so the Zodiac goes unsolved for the time being.


Currently a US Senator.
Posted by Globetrotter747
Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:15 pm to
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There's lots of theories about who the killer may have been, but no definitive proof, so the Zodiac goes unsolved for the time being.


You would think someone with the flamboyance of the Zodiac would love to have one last laugh at the expense of SFPD and have his name released on his death bed or after he passed, kind of like Deep Throat / Mark Felt, and reap the notoriety. Or maybe he preferred the anonymity.

It would be very interesting to know what happened to him and if he’s still alive.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 9/22/19 at 1:48 pm to
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You would think someone with the flamboyance of the Zodiac would love to have one last laugh at the expense of SFPD and have his name released on his death bed or after he passed, kind of like Deep Throat / Mark Felt, and reap the notoriety. Or maybe he preferred the anonymity.

It would be very interesting to know what happened to him and if he’s still alive.


Obvious way to prove it would be to leave a letter unlocking his secret alphabet.

Might not want to risk anyone finding the letter though - and if he dies from something other than a terminal illness the decision is made for him.
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