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re: Any of you OT Ballers HSE Coordinators
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:20 am to LSUweights
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:20 am to LSUweights
Would these certs be covered by taking "Industrial Hygiene" courses?
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Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:20 am to TDcline
I work as a Safety Coordinator for a company within the oil and gas sector. From my experience the title "coordinator" is often interchanged with "inspector." For instance: we employee contract safety inspectors who basically are responsible for day-to-day onsite construction safety (most of them do well with COSS certification, etc.) - they usually earn a lot of money with no benefits and can be terminated without cause.
Conversely, a true coordinator is experienced, educated and ASP/CSP/CIH certified, and is responsible for a much broader area - construction, general industry, industrial health, etc. - and they should be competent enough to consult and recommend options to all departments who have safety issues. Usually this type of employment is attained in 2 ways: 1) hire in within Operations and then enter the Safety department; or 2) college education, certification, coupled with at least 5 years of experience which should allow you to be hired straight into the Safety department as a full-time employee. Good luck!
Conversely, a true coordinator is experienced, educated and ASP/CSP/CIH certified, and is responsible for a much broader area - construction, general industry, industrial health, etc. - and they should be competent enough to consult and recommend options to all departments who have safety issues. Usually this type of employment is attained in 2 ways: 1) hire in within Operations and then enter the Safety department; or 2) college education, certification, coupled with at least 5 years of experience which should allow you to be hired straight into the Safety department as a full-time employee. Good luck!
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:25 am to tke857
If you're a frick-up that likes to put yourself and others at risk of injury for the sake of getting the job done for a company that actually gives two shits about you as a person...then yeah, you're not gonna like the safety guy.
Safety guys get a bad rap because some think they need to bird dog the hell out of guys then run and go tell on them when something isn't right. You've got to be able to address issues you see by a) not getting confrontational b) working with the guy personally to get it fixed and keeping it between you and him on minor infractions that occur infrequently and c) WORK with the guys to get it right.
If a safety guy has field experience in a particular craft before he went into safety, that helps even more because they have a working knowledge of the craft. They've been on both sides and will generally carry credibility with the crews as long as they weren't one of the risk-takers I mentioned earlier. A good safety guy pulls as hard as they push.
Safety guys get a bad rap because some think they need to bird dog the hell out of guys then run and go tell on them when something isn't right. You've got to be able to address issues you see by a) not getting confrontational b) working with the guy personally to get it fixed and keeping it between you and him on minor infractions that occur infrequently and c) WORK with the guys to get it right.
If a safety guy has field experience in a particular craft before he went into safety, that helps even more because they have a working knowledge of the craft. They've been on both sides and will generally carry credibility with the crews as long as they weren't one of the risk-takers I mentioned earlier. A good safety guy pulls as hard as they push.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:28 am to TDcline
I'm thinking about getting one to manage
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:28 am to TDcline
quote:
Would these certs be covered by taking "Industrial Hygiene" courses?
Most of my work is offshore and land, doing drilling, construction, well work, p&a's, and production... so my guys take hands on training in each of the courses I listed.
So most of my guys have little to no training beyond the basics for industrial hygiene
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:39 am to TDcline
when trump wins, we may not need hse coordinators anymore. they are there to prevent lawsuits and trump doesn't like all that politically correct shite.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:58 am to TDcline
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Any suggestions on how to get started?
I am an EHS Manager for GE.
Suggestions to get started:
CPR Instructor
OSHA500 or 501
Job Specific Instructor certs (For me, that is high angle rescue)
As long as you do not 1) act like a dick 2) go out actively looking to find something wrong, you'll enjoy the job. My team and I get along real well, and the job pays $$$$$$.
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 10:00 am
Posted on 5/19/16 at 9:59 am to Hacker
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HSE Coordinator and Baller do not go together
I make 150k a year, but I know I am bottom tier baller status.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:11 am to oldcharlie8
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when trump wins, we may not need hse coordinators anymore. they are there to prevent lawsuits and trump doesn't like all that politically correct shite.
Always going to need safety because of insurance they are the ones really pushing the safety
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:15 am to safetyman
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Always going to need safety because of insurance they are the ones really pushing the safety
because they've been SUED SO MANY frickING TIMES.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:17 am to TheDeathValley
What certs do you/company look for when hiring?
CSST, COSS, OHST, ASP/CSP, CIH?
I'm always expanding my education and always looking for new classes to take.
CSST, COSS, OHST, ASP/CSP, CIH?
I'm always expanding my education and always looking for new classes to take.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:17 am to TheDeathValley
Thanks for the info.
Is there a way to get in without experience in the oil field? Again, I have a lot of project management and operations supervision experience from the military, but no oil field experience.
Is there a way to get in without experience in the oil field? Again, I have a lot of project management and operations supervision experience from the military, but no oil field experience.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:23 am to tke857
Well maybe Transocean should have listened more to their safety people.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:29 am to TheDeathValley
150K is not close to baller status. That is "makes for a comfortable life" status.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:38 am to TDcline
You need the oilfield experience. I'm an HSE Manager and deal with hse coordinators/ inspectors/ auditors routinely. The one thing they all have in common is 5+ years in the oilfield.
For the oilfield (offshore) take some basic stuff... Safegulf/PEC. Take any course you can on accident investigation and root cause analysis. Then just start talking to HSE guys and getting your name out there.
For the oilfield (offshore) take some basic stuff... Safegulf/PEC. Take any course you can on accident investigation and root cause analysis. Then just start talking to HSE guys and getting your name out there.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:48 am to OhFace55
What's a good area to start in to get the experience? I have a corporate job at the moment, a degree, and management experience; so i'm not exactly looking to get a job as a roustabout or deck hand. Not that there's anything wrong with that but I would think i'd be able to start in other areas.
TIA
TIA
This post was edited on 5/19/16 at 10:54 am
Posted on 5/19/16 at 10:58 am to TheDeathValley
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I make 150k a year, but I know I am bottom tier baller status.
I'm going to call bull shite. HSEmanagers or coordinators don't make that much money. The average income for an HSE manager is about 90k.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:02 am to TDcline
Go work on a platform first. Learn the ins and out of how a production platform works. Then go and work on a driller and leadn as much as you can there. Then maybe learn slickline/wireline work. Just learn as much as you can about as many different things as you can.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:10 am to LSUweights
I'm giving a presentation on Incident Investigation and Root Cause Analysis in the morning. Then later in the hitch a several part series on Hazcomm vs. Hazmat vs. Hazardous Waste. Review of the Hazard Communication Standard and how to read MSDS sheets. Operators need refreshers now and then. I found a dry erase board out here and gonna put her to work . Been in production for better than 15 years. Just starting in Compliance after a big layoff in the frac business. I like it actually. I'll have to look up these classes that you speak of.
Posted on 5/19/16 at 11:14 am to JOJO Hammer
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I'm going to call bull shite. HSEmanagers or coordinators don't make that much money. The average income for an HSE manager is about 90k.
It depends on who you work for. We have HSE coordinators at my refinery making in that range. Especially with all the overtime they work, it could be possibly more.
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