re: Anti-vaccine advocates appointed to Minnesota autism council after measles outbreak

Self-fulfilling prophecy

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My nephew went from normal toddler to austistic after getting a bunch of vaccinations at once

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Here we go again. Vaccines do NOT cause autism.

Many children first start exhibiting signs of autism in toddlerhood....same time as they are getting vaccines.

Damn bullfrog....I expected you to be smarter than this.

It’s like saying I got sick the day after I got my hair cut and that clearly the haircut is why I was sick.

Now that explains your long hair. Can’t be too safe out there Nursie.

But that is exactly what happened and as you said, you don’t have a problem spacing out the immunizations.

This little kid’s immune system was overwhelmed and I would take the cautious route and space them out.

Whoa big guy. When the vaccine came out Measles death rate was 1/100k. Less than 100 people per year were dying from it. Most probably immune compromised or infants.

Don’t get me wrong measles sucks and an outbreak would suck but it wouldn’t level the population. I hope everyone is vaccinated but let’s call it what it is. Actually small outbreaks are probably good in the sense it gets the general population back in line with the vaccinations and keeps the health care folks current on how to treat it.

People immediately question doom and gloom and immediately shut down when they are insulted for their views (see the whole climate change debate). The strongest anti-vaccine people have had children harmed and were just told oh well sometimes that happens. That is just hard to overcome for the “greater good”. Plus the Pharmaceutical companies are questioned left and right for their ethical behavior so is it that strange that people would be concerned that they could make economic decisions when it comes to vaccines.

End of the day, you as a parent should understand exactly what is happening when it comes to your children’s care. Every parent should ask their doctor what is happening, why it is happening, and what to expect. If your doctor can’t explain then you should consider other options for care.

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When the vaccine came out Measles death rate was 1/100k

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WHO disagrees with his stats...

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Measles is a highly contagious, serious disease caused by a virus. Before the introduction of measles vaccine in 1963 and widespread vaccination, major epidemics occurred approximately every 2–3 years and measles caused an estimated 2.6 million deaths each year

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2.6 million people dying every year from the measles worldwide before the vaccine was introduced in 1963(and that is in non epidemic years...epidemics happened every 2-3 years so I would imagine those years the deaths were higher). But hey, measles isn't a big deal.

LINK

My father got polio as a child. Back in the 50s before a vaccine was available. When public places were shutting down to kids because parents were terrified their child was gonna get polio.

He was permanently disfigured from it. Spent time as a child(a time he should have been running and playing) in a wheelchair. Had to learn how to relearn how to walk as a child. But considering he didn't die from it or end up in an iron lung the rest of his life...I guess he was one of the lucky ones.

Yeah...polio isn't a big deal at all.

Pertussis isn't a big deal either Scruffy, it only kills babies.

Using Steve logic

Link fixed. Those are worldwide numbers.


Here are U.S. numbers per CDC

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In 1912, measles became a nationally notifiable disease in the United States, requiring U.S. healthcare providers and laboratories to report all diagnosed cases. In the first decade of reporting, an average of 6,000 measles-related deaths were reported each year.

In the decade before 1963 when a vaccine became available, nearly all children got measles by the time they were 15 years of age. It is estimated 3 to 4 million people in the United States were infected each year. Also each year, among reported cases, an estimated 400 to 500 people died, 48,000 were hospitalized, and 1,000 suffered encephalitis (swelling of the brain) from measles.

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LINK

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Your nephew was autistic from birth.

You just started noticing that he was autistic around the same time that he was receiving his vaccinations. They have nothing to do with each other.

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Nope. These are the things you tell yourselves before group high-fives.

Walking and talking vanished after the immunizations. Night and day change in the kid.