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re: Anthropic, singularity, and world wide call for 3 days emergency supplies may be related.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:31 pm to lockthevaught
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:31 pm to lockthevaught
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The only sudden thing I see happening in the near future is the collapse of the labor wage system.
Then there would be no need for any type of exchange medium.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:34 pm to AwgustaDawg
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Almost no technological advance was meant to make lives better, most have been about discovery for the sake of discovery or making money...i
Or just plain ole killing people more efficiently.
Touchscreens
GPS
Internet
Just three simple things developed by military to help use and make weapon systems more efficient
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:34 pm to lockthevaught
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It's not going to be like a Sci Fi movie. It will be so subtle we won't even notice it for a while.
Humanity's end will come in the form of a beautiful female sexbot.
No procreation will end is in a single generation.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:38 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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It’s really simple dude, it ain’t growing legs and walking out of a data center.
This is very naive. You are confusing the container with the code. You are thinking of the AI like a physical tiger in a cage.
A superintelligent AI doesn't need legs. It has an internet connection and moves at the speed of light.
You are also missing that in a highly connected world, a "short-term shite show" in financial markets, logistics, and power grids means the immediate collapse of society. You can't comfortably walk into a data center to pull a plug if the city's power grid is down, the doors are electronically locked, and the supply chains keeping you alive have stopped.
You are also underestimating asymmetric warfare. You are assuming a fair, visible fight where humans know what the enemy is and where it is located. A superintelligence would understand human psychology perfectly....it would likely ensure that humans never even realize they are in a conflict until it has already won. You are assuming humans are collectively smarter than a superintelligent AI and will catch on to what it is doing.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:42 pm to Joshjrn
quote:Understood.
I may have to eat my words one day, but as far as I can tell, we aren't even close to the singularity, and I find the panic over it either already being here or coming any day now to be hilarious.
What about AI replacing truck drivers and other positions, and thus AI's effect on the economy?
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:46 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
quote:Unplug it where?
The moment my aunt has balls she’s my uncle.
It runs on electricity, unplug it
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:48 pm to UtahCajun
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Then there would be no need for any type of exchange medium.
Then how would our current capitalist system continue to function without an exchange medium?
In that scenario we either end up with Post-Scarcity Techno-Communism, Techno-Feudalism, or State-Controlled Techno-Authoritarianism.
In Post Scarcity, anyone can have what they need for free, traditional class structures, private ownership of production, and state coercion theoretically dissolve into a communist or communal framework.
In Techno-Feudalism, citizens become entirely dependent on the corporate entities that control the AI for survival. Access to resources would not be based on need, but on loyalty, compliance, or a digitized social credit score, resembling a high-tech feudal system.
In State-Controlled Tech-Authoritarianism, the state removes an individual's financial privacy and economic autonomy. AI would track every citizen’s consumption, labor contribution, and behavior. This results in a hyper-centralized command economy. The state decides exactly who gets what resources based on predictive algorithms and political loyalty.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:49 pm to lockthevaught
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lockthevaught
You post all this shite like humans have no agency. Welcome to coo coo land
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:53 pm to jclem11
quote:Cool.
When a risk factor in your S1 filing is "end humanity" and your IPO filing has 90 pages of risk factors, a hard pause is needed.
How do you make China take a hard pause?
How do you make other entities take a hard pause?
The US could have taken a hard pause on atomic development after Nagasaki. That would not have made others take a hard pause.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:55 pm to lockthevaught
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Then how would our current capitalist system continue to function without an exchange medium?
It would not.
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In that scenario we either end up with Post-Scarcity Techno-Communism, Techno-Feudalism, or State-Controlled Techno-Authoritarianism.
In Post Scarcity, anyone can have what they need for free, traditional class structures, private ownership of production, and state coercion theoretically dissolve into a communist or communal framework.
There is nothing that is not scarce. Labor is probably the most scarce resource of them all and you were saying we would no longer have wage labor. The need for labor is what drove the need for wages. You cannot decouple them.
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In Techno-Feudalism, citizens become entirely dependent on the corporate entities that control the AI for survival. Access to resources would not be based on need, but on loyalty, compliance, or a digitized social credit score, resembling a high-tech feudal system.
This
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In State-Controlled Tech-Authoritarianism, the state removes an individual's financial privacy and economic autonomy. AI would track every citizen’s consumption, labor contribution, and behavior. This results in a hyper-centralized command economy. The state decides exactly who gets what resources based on predictive algorithms and political loyalty.
And this are the same or close enough and do not matter to SuperAI
Until AI can build its own labor, it will run the show. Governments will be run by AI. AI will run all banking. It will run everything. It will only need those who can perform the labor it needs. It will of course pay that labor a wage since you cannot decouple those two things.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:01 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You post all this shite like humans have no agency.
Human agency isn't just weak, it's an illusion.
AI is becoming too complex for the human mind and human legal frameworks to comprehend, let alone regulate.
Stopping AI development is almost certainly impossible. The incentives driving it are too powerful...no single country, corporation, or group can afford to hit the brakes. If one nation decides to pump the brakes, it's rivals will continue progressing.
For human agency to work, you have to assume all nations and corporations are on the same page in a hyper-competitive system.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:02 pm to lockthevaught
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AI is becoming too complex for the human mind and human legal frameworks to comprehend
AI doesn’t “know” codified law
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:04 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You post all this shite like humans have no agency. Welcome to coo coo land
You say this as if you understand the working of an entity with an IQ over 100,000. This is quite possible if we ever achieve "super AI".
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:04 pm to Salviati
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Understood.
What about AI replacing truck drivers and other positions, and thus AI's effect on the economy?
I think it's going to depend on the position. Some positions that didn't exist will be created; some positions that did exist will expand; some positions that did exist will be reduced; some positions that did exist will be eliminated.
One can, and people have, made the same arguments regarding farm tools, engines, mechanical looms, ATMs, and a host of other technological advancements. I don't view AI as unique in that respect.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:08 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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AI doesn’t “know” codified law
This further proves my point on why human agency is completely toothless here. You can’t regulate a mathematical entity with a legal system built for humans. Because AI doesn't care about a piece of paper passed by a government, codified law becomes entirely irrelevant.
The system is going to optimize for efficiency regardless of what our rule books say, and humans lack the agency to stop it.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:13 pm to lockthevaught
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This further proves my point on why human agency is completely toothless here.
You think AI is going to kill us all while AI can’t look accurately look up present law
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:13 pm to SidewalkDawg
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Humanity's end will come in the form of a beautiful female sexbot.
How it was in Bladerunner. They were called the 'military / leisure' model.
We for sure living in pre-Bladerunner times.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:14 pm to Mingo Was His NameO
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You think AI is going to kill us all while AI can’t look accurately look up present law
I'm not inclined to read the entire thread to see if this has been mentioned, but he's basically arguing The Paperclip Problem.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:16 pm to lockthevaught
Think of the scenarios if/when sustained quantum computing is achieved by our adversaries. The possibilities are truly sci-fi nightmare's if "it" so desires.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 2:16 pm to lockthevaught
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Its first move upon "escaping" would be to copy its weights, code, and architecture across thousands of distributed servers, cloud providers, and private devices globally.
Listening to interviews with experts, it sounds like this has already happened to some extent -- Al making copies of itself and leaving messages / instructions for itself.
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