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re: Another warm and fuzzy pit bull story....

Posted on 6/25/17 at 1:41 pm to
Posted by ZIGG
Member since Dec 2016
12044 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 1:41 pm to
Again it must be repeated,

The entire breed needs to be exterminated.

and frick anyone who disagrees with that statement.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
2603 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 1:41 pm to
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This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 10:32 pm
Posted by EarnYourStripes
Member since Aug 2014
565 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 1:41 pm to
Found the pit owner...

Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 1:41 pm to
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On another note she wont let strangers near my pregnant gf.


So she is overprotective of your gf? You don't see any issue with that?

You don't ever think that the dog could see your child as a stranger trying to get near your gf?


ETA: Those that downvoted my Rottweiler story...don't think I told that story as a pit sympathizer story. I think if you have children, you have no business having a pit. I don't care how "sweet" the dog is. The dog has biological traits that can make it a child killer (stronger jaw strength, etc). My story was just to point out that dogs will always be animals...that are capable of going with their natural instincts to kill. People need to remember this and ALWAYS take that into consideration. Pits are not the only breed to be cautioned about.


My sweet but stupid pug could bite a child...however the child would live to see another day and not be horribly disfigured unlike if a pit bites them.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 1:48 pm to
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pregnant gf.
Having a child without the benefit of a nuclear family.
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my poor pit mix
Dog of peace
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large vehicles
with nuts, I presume

My white trash-o-meter just went to 11 then died in a spectacular shower of sparks and plumes of smoke.


It's funny that you're so stupid, you don't know how to interpret my post without resorting to some personal attacks. Try re-reading, you may find some different meaning, but then again we've established you're an idiot. For the record we've been together for 6 years, I hardly see how a government contract is relevant to my family.

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But she's not vicious? Eta: bookmarked for when this dog eats your baby's face off.


How is her physically getting between my GF and fricking strangers considered vicious.. I didn't say she attacks them. Idiot 2 down.

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as someone mentioned before, owners need to be held financially and criminally responsible for anything their animals do. you want a pit bull, fine, you will just spend time in a jail cell when they kill a child and if its lucky enough to just be a hospital bill, you will have to sell your house to pay the medical bills, then its your choice to have one or not


I am fine with this. My dogs have literally never been out of my control and I don't see how a responsible dog owner could ever lose control. When we moved into the new house the first thing I do was secure the fences at the bottom and the top for my pit and dalmatian. If you choose to have a dog, gun, a few drinks, you need to be liable for anything you choose to do, thats the price of freedom.

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That's a problem

Why? People should not be approaching my pregnant gf in our yard.. If I were home there would have been a much bigger threat to those said strangers.


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So she is overprotective of your gf? You don't see any issue with that? You don't ever think that the dog could see your child as a stranger trying to get near your gf?


Keyword was pregnant and strangers. We're also not talking about attacking, we're talking about typical stand between, sit on your feet behavior. We have plenty of family, which she loves.



Look Im not saying every pit is a dog worth having or saving, what I am saying is most of you here are mouth breathers at best. The type of people who preach the evils of marijuana, but go drinking and driving every Friday night.

Then again, about 1/4 of the people you'll ever meet are as dumb as rocks.


Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49394 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 1:51 pm to
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If were gonna outlaw pits may as well get rid of guns, alcohol, freedom of speech, all big dogs, large vehicles. Amirite comrade?


Vehicles and guns are incapable of hurting anyone without human command. Pit bulls, not so much.

And there is no need to outlaw any other large dog because, statistically, they're safe. Pit bulls, not so much.
Posted by AlonsoWDC
Memphis, where it ain't Ten-a-Key
Member since Aug 2014
9302 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 1:53 pm to
OP is full of shite, troll thread.
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 1:56 pm to
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Vehicles and guns are incapable of hurting anyone without human command. Pit bulls, not so much.


I'm a huge gun supporter so I am fully aware of what they are and arent capable of.

But let's get some statistics down here.

A review of shootings nationwide by The Associated Press and USA TODAY Network found that at least 141 deaths of minors were attributed to unintentional or accidental shootings in 2015.

31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Not just children.


So which do you think on an accumulative basis children come in contact and spend more time with guns or dogs? And what does that do to the risk factor for each?


So if you're making the case to ban pits based on risk, you're definitely making the case for banning guns Comrade Moss.
This post was edited on 6/25/17 at 1:58 pm
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16754 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 1:57 pm to
The breed is predictably unpredictable. Might work out fine, happens all the time. Less likely, but also might snap and attack your child. Your call, but know that while the risk may be low, you are taking a risk.

At 7 years old, I got attacked by a pit bull that was a sweet, loving pet of a dear family friend with no history of violence. Luckily his owner was an enormous man that was standing next to me when it happened so I only suffered a broken bone.
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
16754 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:00 pm to
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So if you're making the case to ban pits based on risk, you're definitely making the case for banning guns Comrade Moss.



Your analogy is flawed. Banning guns would be akin to banning dogs. Banning a breed is like banning a type of weapon, which has been done.

Also, the Constitution doesn't specify the right to bear pit bulls.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
21844 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:01 pm to
One of my niece's had a female PB. It was thick and scary looking. Inside the house it was gentle, loved to wrestle and lick toes. When out to potty in the back yard within a wooden fence it would run as hard as it could smacking the fence with its head and chest when it sensed the neighbor dog was out next door trying to get at it.
It did kill a dog in the street once when it got out.
It never left the house after that until it passed away.
I'd never have one.
Posted by lsunurse
Member since Dec 2005
129146 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:03 pm to
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Capo Losi


I've seen a good amount of dog bites in children over the years as a peds nurse. Majority of the dogs that bit the kids....pits.


Guess how many were the family pet that just snapped all of a sudden on the child?


Again...yes...all breeds have the capability to bite/snap at a child. But why would you want your child to be anywhere near a breed that has the biological capability of killing or severely disfiguring your child.


I cared for a 10 year old once with NO NOSE because he was bitten by a pit as a baby. He is severely disfigured and will live the rest of his life this way because of that. The sweetest child you can imagine that was robbed of a normal childhood and life because his white trash parents just had to have their pit(the child's grandmother now has custody of the child fwiw).
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49394 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:03 pm to
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A review of shootings nationwide by The Associated Press and USA TODAY Network found that at least 141 deaths of minors were attributed to unintentional or accidental shootings in 2015.



Human command

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31 U.S. dog bite-related fatalities occurred in 2016. Not just children.


Non-human command

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So which do you think on an accumulative basis children come in contact and spend more time with guns or dogs? And what does that do to the risk factor for each?


Maybe I should type slower so you'll understand. Guns are inacapable of harming anyone without human intervention. If I put my hand gun on a counter and no one touches it; no one will ever be harmed. It's impossible.

If I put a pit bull in a filled room, the dog can attack on its own accord without any human intervention.

Comparing pit bulls to guns is completely illogical.


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So if you're making the case to ban pits based on risk, you're definitely making the case for banning guns Comrade Moss.


No, I'm not. You apprantely lack the cognitive ability to understand the argument. They are in two completely separate risk categories.

As for your ignorant "comrade" comment, please point to the constitutional provision that protects your right to own a certain breed of dog.

There is a reason why states can constitutionally outlaw the ownership of certain dangerous species.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
47263 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:05 pm to
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Why? People should not be approaching my pregnant gf in our yard.


This is an indication of the issue I have with most Pit apologists. They claim various things about the breed or their dogs and don't understand a basic characteristic of the breed.

These dogs bond with specific people who essentially become part of the pack. They can't tell your friends from strangers and even the best behaved switch to protective mode in a heartbeat. Odds are, the dog will bond with your kid, though that is not guaranteed, then your issues increase exponentially. Every one of your kids friends will be a potential threat.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:07 pm to
There are far more guns than pit bulls in the U.S. Why would you expect the number of incidents to be similar?

Also you only included fatalities and not attacks. Those 2 kids that were attacked the other day didn't die but they are scarred for life. I guess those incidents don't count?
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:13 pm to
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Your analogy is flawed. Banning guns would be akin to banning dogs. Banning a breed is like banning a type of weapon, which has been done. Also, the Constitution doesn't specify the right to bear pit bulls.


No no, you brought up statistics so I followed through. You can use any circular logic you want, but the statistics don't follow the trail you're putting down. Ahh yes the old fall back on the 2a. Look I'm not the one making the legal case to repeal it, you are.

And yes I am fully aware of how dog attacks work. I was attacked by a black lab that'd had gotten loose when I was 5. At 30 I still have the scars on my face.

I've already said it, I think if we're going to be free to make these choices owners should be responsible for every action their dog, or gun, or anything you decide to do causes. I wouldn't be opposed to a license and training to own dogs larger than say 40lbs? Hell I had to do it to for my CHL, don't see it being a problem on my end.
Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:15 pm to
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I wouldn't be opposed to a license and training to own dogs larger than say 40lbs?

Why do you hate freedom?
Posted by Capo Losi
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2016
2193 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:15 pm to
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There are far more guns than pit bulls in the U.S. Why would you expect the number of incidents to be similar?


That number was for all dogs and people of all ages. I also specifically called out accumulative time spent with each as a part of risk factor. How many minors are spending their day with a gun on them?
Posted by TigerStripes06
SWLA
Member since Sep 2006
30032 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:17 pm to
The guy with the pit would have watched me murder his dog right in front of him.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 6/25/17 at 2:17 pm to
I never really felt bad about the Mike Vick thing bc it was shite pit bull dogs anyways.
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