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re: Another shaky sign of a lost generation: Welcome to the #YOLO economy

Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:33 pm to
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:33 pm to
Ya, wow. Amazing that people should look at moving if they feel entitled not to rent.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:40 pm to
Housing has gotten crazy in most markets and the lower class culture explosion has destroyed a ton of small towns. If you want a mid-size city that isn't destroyed it's expensive for what you get.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 6:47 pm to
The lower class issue is an education, skills and opportunity problem not an affordable housing problem.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:48 pm to
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the lower class culture explosion has destroyed a ton of small towns.
has that destroyed small towns, or has everyone flowing to metro areas destroyed small towns????
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:56 pm to
Whatever you want to say is the primary cause, the towns are screwed. Run down without any good areas, bad schools, high crime for the population, etc.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 7:59 pm to
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The lower class issue is an education, skills and opportunity problem not an affordable housing problem.

That has nothing to do with this discussion. They destroy wherever they live. That means lots of small towns are destroyed and not marketable for these transplants.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 8:01 pm to
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Wat? Millennials are working longer hours than previous generations. This has been mad worse by the WFH of the covid shutdown.


I work in the industrial sector of the economy where I work with people that are 20 yrs old to 70. The millennials, as a group, have lower tolerance for physical work. We used to have to hire 20 to get 10 because at the interviews they all wanted that $$$/hr. When they saw what the jobs entailed and that they had to work to a standard many quit in 2-3 wks. And these were not "dirty jobs." Most just considered the manual labor to be beneath them.

However, The current group coming into the work force is way out there. No concept of working to get ahead.

I will give you that there are exceptions to every generalization.
Posted by FLObserver
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 8:07 pm to
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That's not really true unless you got a useless degree like gender studies and saddled yourself with tremendous debt.


Well you just found alot of today's major's and why they cant find jobs when they graduate. Have a daughter in College now who is a Journalism major. I have begged her to get a degree in something else and i have critized to the point of making her angry. She just knows it all and that she is different. The only positive is she is on scholarship and will graduate with maybe 10k in debt.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
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Posted on 5/15/21 at 8:27 pm to
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Have a daughter in College now who is a Journalism major. I have begged her to get a degree in something else and i have critized to the point of making her angry. She just knows it all and that she is different. The only positive is she is on scholarship and will graduate with maybe 10k in debt.


I was the exact same way. I got to my senior year and started looking for jobs. Once I saw the starting salaries I started studying to go to law school.
This post was edited on 5/15/21 at 8:28 pm
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 1:07 am to
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Whatever you want to say is the primary cause, the towns are screwed. Run down without any good areas, bad schools, high crime for the population, etc.


There’s a reason we don’t put legit small towns in with the Chicago’s and Gary’s and New Orleanss of crime

Part of being small towns is that their local problems will never be like those of the big cities
Posted by Zappas Stache
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 1:09 am to
It must be scary to live in your world.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 1:15 am to
I was a journalism major too. Was in LSU’s school of journalism and it was such a cesspool. I was actually fairly left leaning until just last year (graduated LSU in 2014) but I’m so glad I left journalism.
Posted by Paul Allen
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 1:40 am to
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Was in LSU’s school of journalism and it was such a cesspool. I was actually fairly left leaning until just last year




That’s cute
Posted by LouisianaLady
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 1:44 am to
I don’t know what that means, but do you remember when you were nice, or nah?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 2:41 am to
Goldman Sachs has been this exact same thing for decades by rigging every market they touch and they have only destroyed the US economy once so far
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 7:22 am to
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Direct result of printing money and inflation bubbles. Real returns are hard to find, so the risk required to generate a return goes up.

Exactly. This also has the potential to kill real "savings" depending on how bad inflation gets. Our system has been rigged by politicians to avoid natural deflation/price correction for decades and we are really seeing the effects finally. With certain assets this isn't as big of a deal in terms of barrier to entry (like stocks, which anyone can jump into with funds, etc.), but it is a HUGE deal in terms of others (real estate primarily). For decades, those with power and property have ensured that their home prices will never decline (via comprehensive policies from government-zoning to interest rates, etc.), which means the barrier to entry is insane for anyone just trying to join the market.

A very underrated way that boomers and older Gen X are creating insane barriers to entry is that they have created lifestyles that are so expensive to maintain, they can't retire. This has a real downstream effect on younger Gen X/older millenials because the advancement opportunities Boomers and older Gen X had simply do not exist today. The slack that younger Millennials and older Gen Z will face is real, and unlike previous generations, they are fully aware that their progression is completely fricked compared to their bosses's progression options.

So when you add in very elevated requirements to get white collar work (degrees, urban living, etc.), the costs of those requirements (absurd college and rental costs), lowered starting pay, and decreased chance of advancement, you are going to get some nihilism. Add into this negative outlook all of the inflationary bubbles all around them and it really does raise a question of which path is best.

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Oddly the millinial generation strongly supports political proponents and policies that are causing their financial headwinds.

Well while true, the natural progression of political beliefs applies to all generations roughly the same. I mean frick the boomers were goddamn hippies and now look at them fricking up life for everyone else for multiple decades while they had social and political power.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 7:23 am to
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Taking huge risks is how innovation and success occurs I don’t see this as a bad thing

Taking risks as an investment in something real and tactile (like a business or product idea) is a lot different than taking risks by gambling.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4470 posts
Posted on 5/16/21 at 7:23 am to
I think it basically boils down to two things. I see this some in my own kids.

1. They at least didn't get worthless degrees IMO (1. nurse 2. Masters in Geology)


2. This is one that they seem to struggle with but I see it much more with their friends. They all want all of the material things now that my wife and I have spent a lifetime acquiring. They do not want to start with a cheaper car, or smaller home, etc.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 7:27 am to
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I’ll say it until the day I die that dawn of social media was the real world’s Skynet coming online. For every social media “personality” pulling in a quick $10,000 per month or more after taxes are thousands of viewers jealous and wanting that same success immediately. It’s infiltrated every aspect of society and we keep going further and further down the rabbit hole.

I don't disagree and I'm an older millennial/xennial, so I lived my life before and after the internet. Younger millennials and Gen Z were basically a big social experiment. They were guinea pigs and the ideas tested warped them psychologically and emotionally.

The older I get and the more I see the pathologies of social media permanently ingrained in people, I realize that humans are not capable of properly using that tech. But, you can't criticize millennials for the pathologies they face because they were unwitting the test subjects who had no idea they were being used in that way. The effects they present aren't their fault.
Posted by Newrow
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 5/16/21 at 7:27 am to
Lol what?
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