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re: Another Fatal Police Shooting. This One is Truly F'd Up
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:04 am to 91TIGER
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:04 am to 91TIGER
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You watched a different video ? Not justifying it but he certainly didn't "put his hands UP".
Agreed. He looked like he was throwing again to me. Still a rough situation...suicide by cop/crazy person.
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Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:05 am to 3rdRowTailgater
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There are other ways to handle these situations than lethal force.
well a big enough rock striking someone's head could be lethal... people need to start respeking the law.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:05 am to TH03
2edgy4me
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:05 am to LoveThatMoney
Serious questions:
Is this man a threat to the security of that city, state, or this country? Is he a viable threat to the community or the families in it?
What harm would have come if the police did not pursue him? Do you think he would have thrown rocks at police officers again after getting shot at for it? Would you have let him just go after he started fleeing in fear of his life?
Is this man a threat to the security of that city, state, or this country? Is he a viable threat to the community or the families in it?
What harm would have come if the police did not pursue him? Do you think he would have thrown rocks at police officers again after getting shot at for it? Would you have let him just go after he started fleeing in fear of his life?
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:05 am to LoveThatMoney
They shot at him in the beginning and missed, then he runs across the street and they kill him. That's what it looks/sounds like to me.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:05 am to jrodLSUke
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Police should be allowed to defend themselves from assault.
Sure. But not by killing someone.
What they did was incredibly lazy. They easily could have just tackled him at the end.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:06 am to 3rdRowTailgater
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That guy very well could have had mental health issues. There are other ways to handle these situations than lethal force.
i work in mental health, and your absolutely right. But these cops didnt know "i assume" and they were being attacked, he could have had a gun or anything. im not saying they couldnt have handled it better, but i rarely question a cops judgement in their line of work
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:06 am to BayouBandit24
or tazed him.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:07 am to 91TIGER
quote:You must have fast forwarded to the end of the video.......
You watched a different video ? Not justifying it but he certainly didn't "put his hands UP".
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:07 am to Chad504boy
quote:Utmost respect for the law. Very little respect for the men and women who "protect and serve".
people need to start respeking the law
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:07 am to BayouBandit24
yea but killing him shows their authoritah
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:07 am to oleyeller
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but i rarely question a cops judgement in their line of work
That's why they've been able to get away with murdering citizens in record numbers.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:08 am to Pettifogger
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We just need to eliminate the idea that it's acceptable for police to shoot to avoid all risk.
It's not. It's acceptable to avoid significant risk of severe bodily injury or death, but it's not reasonable to shoot a golden retriever to avoid being nipped, or kill a guy to avoid a small rock-induced contusion.
This looks to be another solid example of how if the guys having rocks thrown at them were not police officers all holding weapons and the authority to use them when "threatened" a man would still be alive. Any other situation where three or four men were having rocks thrown at them by one guy would have subdued him easily without killing him AND endangering the lives of bystanders by spraying bullets around.
Your point is dead on.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:08 am to GetCocky11
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The officers attempted to use a stun gun to incapacitate Zambrano-Montes after he would not obey commands to surrender, before they opened fire and killed him, the statement said. A video of the incident posted on YouTube and cited by local media showed the man running away from the three officers before he was killed. In the 22-second video, the man moves across the street from the pursuing policemen. He turns to face them briefly, lifting his right arm as if to throw another object, when they open fire, according to the video.
from the link...looks like they tried a stun gun....
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:09 am to 3rdRowTailgater
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quote:
but i rarely question a cops judgement in their line of work
That's why they've been able to get away with murdering citizens in record numbers.
im not saying every scenerio.... because there are always exceptions to the rule. But 99.999999% of the time i would say people noy breaking the law in some way are not getting shot by cops
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:10 am to CapitalCityDevil
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What harm would have come if the police did not pursue him?
No idea. But at that point, they need to arrest the guy.
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Do you think he would have thrown rocks at police officers again after getting shot at for it?
Eh. possibly.
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Would you have let him just go after he started fleeing in fear of his life?
Nope. Would have tackled his arse. The cops had him cornered for frick's sake. He had stopped, even he was turning to throw another rock, just bum rush him. There are three of us and one of him. We have ASPs, he has bare hands after he unloads his rock at us. There is no question here, imo. The cops got lazy and decided to unload about 7 shots at the guy.
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:10 am to BoominHogtown
thankfully he looks white-ish so no apologizing necessary
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:10 am to BayouBandit24
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We just need to eliminate the idea that it's acceptable for police to shoot to avoid all risk.
It's not. It's acceptable to avoid significant risk of severe bodily injury or death, but it's not reasonable to shoot a golden retriever to avoid being nipped, or kill a guy to avoid a small rock-induced contusion.
Dude if you have badge and feel threaten you're allowed to do whatever the frick you want. A cops comfort is more important than anyones life
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:10 am to oleyeller
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But 99.999999% of the time i would say people noy breaking the law in some way are not getting shot by cops
Breaking the law should not automatically result in a death sentence. How many kids on playgrounds would be executed if the law gunned them down every time they threw a rock at someone?
Posted on 2/12/15 at 10:11 am to oleyeller
Times sure have changed. You never saw Andy or Barney cap Ernest T Bass for throwing rocks.
Damn shame.
Damn shame.
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