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Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The public feels the same way about L.E.
exactly
there is an unhealthy amount of fear mongering when it comes to the dangers of being in law enforcement. in spite of what some seem to think, being a law enforcement professional is not an especially dangerous profession. but the perception is different and this is used to justify violence and aggression from police and other law enforcement.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:28 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The public feels the same way about L.E.
Because of negative propaganda..
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:32 pm to molsusports
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being a law enforcement professional is not an especially dangerous profession
Depends on the county
Just take a closer look.. It's highly dangerous.
How many of you would have the balls to arrest someone late night in a rough neighborhood where all kinds of lovely things take place?
"Keep them over there" is what many think police should do or just let them kill each other off.
"thanks! and when I want to be a jerk, you have to like it, because it's legal"
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 2:33 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:34 pm to LNCHBOX
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A person can act however they want to a cop. They should also be ready for the consequences of their actions.
Finally, thank you for admitting the cop should be ready for the consequences of his threatening abusive tirade on the driver. He also threw something.
Spin it how you like, agree or disagree with what the driver did driving LEGALLY around the area...the bottom line is no laws were broken and the proof is in the fact that no tickets or arrests were performed! That being said is proof in of itself that the cop had no reason to approach, throw something, and verbally threaten the guy.
What if the driver was waiting to go somewhere that was close to the area the cop was and was simply circling until the cop left and he could approach the area?
So keep arguing numbnuts, the proof is in the lack of action from the cop. No laws were broken except his fat arse ego being put in check by a measly civilian.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:34 pm to molsusports
quote:It isn't as dangerous as they make it out to be.
there is an unhealthy amount of fear mongering when it comes to the dangers of being in law enforcement. in spite of what some seem to think, being a law enforcement professional is not an especially dangerous profession. but the perception is different and this is used to justify violence and aggression from police and other law enforcement.
Trash collectors have a more dangerous job than LEOs.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:37 pm to molsusports
absolutely agree.
there is an unhealthy amount of fear mongering when it comes to the dangers of interacting with law enforcement. in spite of what some seem to think, interacting with a law enforcement professional is not an especially risky proposition. but the perception is different and this is used to justify violence, rebellion, civil disobedience and even aggression from the average citizen towards police
there is an unhealthy amount of fear mongering when it comes to the dangers of interacting with law enforcement. in spite of what some seem to think, interacting with a law enforcement professional is not an especially risky proposition. but the perception is different and this is used to justify violence, rebellion, civil disobedience and even aggression from the average citizen towards police
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:37 pm to DeathValley85
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We would all be crucifying the cop if he didn't stop the vehicle and the vehicle ended up having the murderer/rapist/arsonist in it.
Geez, what a leap!
Was there a murder, rapist, or arson investigation going on. If so, the police usually block off a street and stop EVERYONE coming in or leaving to make sure escapes don't happen.
I must admit, I've seen situations with police where I passed near the area more than once to see what was going on in my town.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:38 pm to ApexTiger
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Depends on the county
The death rate for law enforcement professionals is lower than a lot of other professions and much lower than truly dangerous professions like fishing, mining, transportation, and construction. If you want to argue it is terribly dangerous in one place (to be a cop) then you have to acknowledge it must be extremely safe almost everywhere else.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:42 pm to GeeOH
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A person can act however they want to a cop. They should also be ready for the consequences of their actions.
Finally, thank you for admitting the cop should be ready for the consequences of his threatening abusive tirade on the driver. He also threw something.
That's not what he meant.
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So keep arguing numbnuts, the proof is in the lack of action from the cop. No laws were broken except his fat arse ego being put in check by a measly civilian.
The real question is, do you support the actions of this kid? yes or no? Courageous or stupid?
forget the legal question... Was it right in your view to do what he was doing by refusing to answer the policemen's questions?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 2:57 pm to ApexTiger
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That's not what he meant.
Of course he only wants one side to be his arguement. But it works both ways.
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The real question is, do you support the actions of this kid? yes or no? Courageous or stupid?
forget the legal question... Was it right in your view to do what he was doing by refusing to answer the policemen's questions?
No, I do not personally "support" the kids actions, but I ABSOLUTELY support his right to legally decline answering after being stopped for legally driving a car.
I understand wanting to leave the legal side out of it, but that just isn't possible.
Cops MUST be held to follow the laws as written, like it or not.
I would support my son's rights if he did this, but I also would kick his fricking arse 7 ways from Sunday for disrespecting an adult, much less a police officer. That is, right up to the point where the police officer got abusive towards an innocent citizen. I say that because he would have written a ticket if laws were broken.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 3:04 pm
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:01 pm to ApexTiger
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The real question is, do you support the actions of this kid? yes or no? Courageous or stupid?
No.
Why was he stopped?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:06 pm to ApexTiger
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The real question is, do you support the actions of this kid? yes or no? Courageous or stupid?
forget the legal question... Was it right in your view to do what he was doing by refusing to answer the policemen's questions?
i think, once again, you will see most say that if it was their friend or family that they would be a bit embarassed or smack them and tell them to quite giving him a hard time for the sake of a hard time.... but what you still dont get is that despite most of us agreeing that the guy was a pain, the cop was totally out of line in how he responded to it and additionally carries a much higher burden of conduct.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:06 pm to ApexTiger
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that's why you said
"Jesus annoys me about as much as Thor does, which is to say, none. People who effect my life because of their affinity for him annoy me quite a fricking bit."
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amiright?
No, as usual.
I don't agree that someone else's personal religious beliefs should infringe on my, or anyone else's, rights. Christians, like their Muslim counterparts, are far too often interested in trying to force their views of what is right and wrong and the correct way to live on to others.
And just in case your suggestion was that I don't believe in the divinity of Jesus because I don't want to get with his program and follow his rules, no again. Those are separate issues entirely.
I don't believe in the divinity of Jesus because I see no evidence AT ALL that if the man lived he was divine. It's an evidence issue in that case. However, it would still be possible for me to acknowledge his divinity (again, I do not) and decide all on my own to not like or follow him. Case in point: Obama, Barack. I acknowledge that he exists, but that doesn't mean I have to like him. I don't have to pretend he doesn't exist to do that, any more so than I have to pretend I don't believe in Jesus to also not follow his rules.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:18 pm to GeauxTigerTM
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GeauxTigerTM
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Obviously, he wasnt thinking clearly
HAHAHAHA Did you really just post a picture of Raylan Givins from Justified? That is too funny. He abuses everybody's rights on that show.
But I love that show and watch it every week!
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:19 pm to alphaandomega
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HAHAHAHA Did you really just post a picture of Raylan Givins from Justified? That is too funny. He abuses everybody's rights on that show.
But I love that show and watch it every week!
One of the main reasons I used it! haha...good catch!
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:23 pm to GeauxTigerTM
This thread is hilarious.
Sure the kid was being a prick, but the cop went overboard too. They were both in the wrong and it was funny as shite to see that cop lose his shite and not be able to do anything about it.
I think the point of these threads that alot of you are missing are that cops are bullies. This dick cop was a bully and used his authority to try to scare the guy and to back down.
Why you people keep taking up for those guys is beyond me. Smoke out the bullies more. I love watching them lose their shite. It's always the arrogant ones.
Sure the kid was being a prick, but the cop went overboard too. They were both in the wrong and it was funny as shite to see that cop lose his shite and not be able to do anything about it.
I think the point of these threads that alot of you are missing are that cops are bullies. This dick cop was a bully and used his authority to try to scare the guy and to back down.
Why you people keep taking up for those guys is beyond me. Smoke out the bullies more. I love watching them lose their shite. It's always the arrogant ones.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:23 pm to Prominentwon
Also, has there been an update that I didnt see?
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:31 pm to Prominentwon
You would think by now Cops would realize when someone is baiting them and just say have a nice day and walk away. Things always go sideways when the cop feels "disrespected", which last time I checked it wasn't against the law to disrespect someone.
Posted on 4/15/14 at 3:34 pm to Dizz
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Things always go sideways when the cop feels "disrespected", which last time I checked it wasn't against the law to disrespect someone.
Exactly. ...cops can disrespect citizens all they want because they have the authority to do so....but ohhhhh, one time someone pops off to them and doesn't break the law, it's the end of the world and they want to arrest someone. Funny how that works.
This post was edited on 4/15/14 at 3:34 pm
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