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re: Annual Christmas Severe Weather Thread - Tornado Watch for South & Central LA

Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:07 pm to
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:07 pm to
The hard interface with gulf air usually happens north of BR. Fronts seem to slow down when they approach S LA. If you spend enough time trying to hunt or fish in south LA based on weather forecasts you’ll see the pattern.
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:08 pm to
Interesting. Where do you think the distinction line is north or BR, like St. Francisville?
Posted by GreenRockTiger
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:11 pm to
Is it because of distance from the gulf?
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:14 pm to
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The hard interface with gulf air usually happens north of BR. Fronts seem to slow down when they approach S LA. If you spend enough time trying to hunt or fish in south LA based on weather forecasts you’ll see the pattern.



That's true but I think it's generally more of getting a little distance from the gulf and the stable lower levels it provides. You'll get a little colder in the mid levels and a little bit of a steeper temp drop with height from the surface up north of BR line.

Couple of that with typically being closer to the surface low providing the spin and you have SW Mississippi being the severe weather launching pad more than BR and points south.
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:20 pm to
Some of the meteorological gurus might be able to define it a little better. But I’d say between st franny and port Gibson. I’m sure some of it is anecdotal since I spent a lot of time in that area growing up.
Posted by Duke
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:23 pm to
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st franny and port Gibson


That's pretty solid tbh. Seen many a baby storm get cooking up that way and be a supercell by the time it crosses I55 in Amite County, MS. Seems like that is where you get the most surface based stuff.

Posted by Paul Allen
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:23 pm to
I’ve always wondered that being that BR and most of Southern Louisiana is flat. No hills or topography to speak of.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:32 pm to
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I’ve always wondered that being that BR and most of Southern Louisiana is flat. No hills or topography to speak of.


Kansas doesn't struggle for tornadoes and it ain't exactly hilly. I see your reasoning though.

It always seems to be an issue of getting storms surfaced based this close to the gulf. The warm moist layer is a little thicker near the gulf, which is fuel for the storm but it means the temperatures don't drop as fast with height and all that moisture doesn't really get rising.

Or if it is getting surfaced based, you have too much moisture and it all goes up at once and interferes with other storms.

Its a good "problem" to have.
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:38 pm to
Front just passed in the Northssippi. Little bit of hail now waiting on the snow. TV weather man said we have a 1 on the Winter Weather scale - Flurries no Worries.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 11:42 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:48 pm to
Isn’t the reason there’s so many tornadoes in the Midwest has something to do with air circulation rolling off the Rockies?

I think I’ve read that somewhere.
This post was edited on 12/23/20 at 11:49 pm
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 12/23/20 at 11:57 pm to
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Isn’t the reason there’s so many tornadoes in the Midwest has something to do with air circulation rolling off the Rockies?

I think I’ve read that somewhere.


You'd be right.

The Rockies supply cold air in the mid levels and you'll see low pressure systems form along the front range as the column of air falls off the mountains and stretches, which induces spin. Lee side cyclogenesis if you want to be fancy.

That surface low starts sucking in gulf moisture and brings cold air aloft, and gives some spin. Good recipe for tornadoes.
Posted by trussthetruzz
Marquette, MI
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 12/24/20 at 12:49 am to
starting to piss in BR
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/24/20 at 12:59 am to
Some pretty serious rain rolling through. Temps def droppin
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35607 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 1:07 am to
Yeah, cold front looks through BR on radar. Should be a dramatic front too. Temp will drop fast.

Getting our first warm sector shower in NOLA but not any lightning, so instability seems limited south of the Lake. Going to need the front closer to give it a little push upward.

North shore starting to get some solid thunderstorms though. That's where I'd be on the lookout for possible severe stuff in the next two hours. Nothing of note right now though.
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/24/20 at 1:16 am to
Oh dang... You post on cold fronts too? Ha ha. Hows the baby?
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35607 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 1:27 am to
Yeah, I try to post when there's weather happening.

The little one is doing great. I'm her favorite parent, which makes my wife crazy. So far pretty healthy and very happy but still not quite sleeping through the night. Hence me posting at 1:30 in a cold front thread.
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
6405 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 1:42 am to
Holy Christmas Eve sheet. I think a tornado just roared in my neck of the woods. House started shaking and wind was roaring, had to be 80+ mph. Guess I will find out in morning
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35607 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 1:55 am to
Where are you?
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 12/24/20 at 4:45 am to
Well, whatever happened here last night in Lakeland ( besides a lot of rain)-I slept right through it.
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 12/24/20 at 6:27 am to
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Where are you?


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