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re: An attempt at a realistic portrayal of what WW1 artillery bombardment sounded like

Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:07 pm to
Posted by athenslife101
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:07 pm to
Well, this may sound strange, but I really see artillery in WW2 as a support weapon. Kinda like in the Civil War. While in the Napoleonic Wars and WW1, I see them as primary attack weapons. Hard to explain my reasoning. Just I’ve always seen that based on stuff I’ve read.
Posted by Tomherman
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:07 pm to
Guess it runs in the family
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:07 pm to
A lot of WW1 was fought with tactics that begin late in the US Civil War (trench/attrition warfare), but with modern weapons. However, perhaps the most vicious piece of materiel found on a WW1 battlefield was born on the plains of Oklahoma: barbed wire.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:08 pm to
Artillery was by far the greatest killer in the war; about 58.3 percent of German deaths were caused by artillery and about 41.7 percent by small arms.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:08 pm to
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For some reason it’s not letting me copy it but the description in the video says if it were fully realistic all you would hear is loud white noise.



That doesn’t do it justice.
“Loud white noise”.

Sounds Almost soothing.


The noise wasn’t even noise. It was darkness disembodied. It was shadows screaming. It was the whole bloody heavens imploding, vaporizing any concept of reality, wracking rolling endless thunder amplified and augmented with the screams of the dying. A downpour of splinters and soil and sacrilege and sacrifice. Torrential tornado sounds of the tormented.
It made hell seem paradise.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:08 pm to
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Yeah. Also, don’t forget, as horrible as these attacks were, they were super ineffective at actually doing anything of substance. Hence, why the western front was at a standstill for 3 years while larger and larger artillery barrages were deployed


I disagree to a certain extent. I think the artillery was effective, but the infantry had no real way to exploit what the artillery cleared. Mainly because they didn’t have effective communications with each other and even if you do something like Verdun or the Somme where the soldiers described the artillery fire at its slowest was mere drum fire, you just can’t kill everybody on the other side.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:10 pm to
I get your drift
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:14 pm to
Well, yeah. The artillery caused casualties. But the main reason for the artillery was to break up the enemy enough to weaken their defenses so that an assault could allow the military to break on through.

despite casualties, the artillery was never able to do that.

But yes, in the Napoleonic Wars and WW2, I think the highest rates of battlefield casualties were due to artillery. Civil War was by the rifle by a fair bit due to rifling and the required change in tactics that brought on to the use of artillery.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Old Character
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:15 pm to
My great grandfather was in the trenches apparently. What I know for sure is that he spent some time in some sort of asylum when he got home. My dad has his dog tags and a basket he weaved while in the hospital. Hard to imagine going through that hell and your therapy was “tike some time and weave a basket”.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:17 pm to
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Does it kinda give you a semi feeling all that power?


Yes, but only because your nuts just crawled in your body and hunkered down in the base of your shaft, because if you just called the red legs with a danger close fire mission you are as close to getting fricked as a OT9 at a frat party that just did 3 hits of MDMA and washed them down with 8 tequila shots.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:19 pm to
I’m desperately searching for an accurate Account of what the soldiers experience was like in the Napoleonic wars from Reddit. It was amazing. Can’t find it, any help?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:22 pm to
Ask Historians is a great subreddit. They don’t allow responses that aren’t well sourced.

LINK

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This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 9:23 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:25 pm to
Blood is falling like the rain
Its crimson cloak unveils again
The sound of guns can't hide their shame
And so we die on Paschendale


Passchendaele
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:25 pm to

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You know of anyone that's been on the receiving end of a heavy artillery barrage?


No, but I have spent an afternoon in a fortified bunker where we practiced calling 155 MM rounds in “Danger Close” to get the feel of being on the recieving end of an artillery barrage. This was about 2-3 hours of artillery rounds continuously landing within 100 yards to directly on our position.

During a training excersise I had a round fall short 100-150 yards behind my position sitting on a hill top.

Over a five year period I watched 1000-2000 rounds either fired from a M198 Howitzer or land in the impact area.

I was fortunate that I didn’t have to experience this in a combat situation only in training.

Just curious, have you?

Please note that I am not belittling what any soldier or marine has experienced on the battlefield. I’m saying that based on my limited experience I do not believe the simulation on you tube gives that experience true justice because it doesn’t replicate the feel of the percussion created when a round explodes.
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 9:36 pm
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:26 pm to
No clue. I got banned from that askhistorian site, those motherfrickers.

With anything, the Napoleonic soldier experience varied very wildly depending on where you were.

It’s hard for me to judge but fighting in Russia and Spain seem to have been the worst. Captured French soldiers in both locations were treated absolutely terrifyingly bad by the local populaces.

Italy had some disease issues but otherwise, probably wouldn’t have been too bad. Same with Germany and France.

Off the top of my head, I think the consensus was the worst Napoleonic. Style to fight in was Eylau in Prussia.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:27 pm to
Great Iron Maiden song
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:29 pm to
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Ask Historians is a great subreddit.


frick them bitches. They banned me. Because people asked shitty arse questions and I said they needed to clarify if they wanted a ducking real answer.

“Oh, did people have writing back then?”
Me:”what time period are you referring to”
“Banned for unhelpful contribution”

frickers.
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:29 pm to
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Passchendaele


Of all the WWI battlefields, this one would’ve driven me the most mad.

frick dealing with that rain and watching your pals get literally sucked into the mud and drowned knowing you can’t do shite about it.

I died in hell, they called it Passchendaele
This post was edited on 2/7/19 at 9:32 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:30 pm to
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“Oh, did people have writing back then?” Me:”what time period are you referring to” “Banned for unhelpful contribution” frickers.


Seems reasonable
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 2/7/19 at 9:31 pm to
The mud...the damned mud. Sucking you down into a ignominious grave, slow death, freedom so close yet the inescapable mud...dragging you down.

A bullet was kindness
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