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re: American reporter Steven Sotloff beheaded by ISIS

Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:30 pm to
Posted by ShamelessPel
Metairie
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:30 pm to
Holy hell. The amount of ignorance in this thread is astounding. To sum it up: a) Obama doesn't care about MURICA cause he's taking time off. b) He thinks all of this is funny because of one image of him smiling.

The only thing you're doing with those opinions is making yourself look like a moronic FOX News parrot. Take some time to read actual material you stupid hillbillies, and come at him with the numerous reasons he should be ridiculed by the right.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:32 pm to
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It's not a "blood on his hands" situation, but it's a situation where repeated incompetence and bad messaging have totally destroyed American foreign policy at present


Best way to sum it up.

I don't think a Special Ops mission would have all that great of an effect. It's kind of like the hydra - cut one head off and another grows back. Like Al Queada (sp) and the taliban. Unfortunately, this is a group that won't go away, no matter how many are killed (unless, of course it is every single one of them...)
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
14206 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:35 pm to
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That is the Catch-22 here. In order to successfully eradicate ISIS, it will require cooperation among the US and either: A.) The Assad regime that we have labeled and treated as a terrorist organization. B.) The Iranian government. Neither options are very attractive, and this explains the lack of direction we seem to have in dealing with the ISIS threat. The best weapon against ISIS is non-radical Muslims who refuse to let the Caliphate spread any further. Their the only ones who can really stop it.




Could very well be. It seems like every possibility is a Catch-22, though....Arming the non-radicals is a risk, in it's own right. Our military just finished attacking what was formerly our own equipment now owned by these ISIS shitbags. What a mess it all is....

This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 1:39 pm
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33272 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:36 pm to
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Don't sit back and blame Obama for this. There was nothing he could do.


Sure there is. He could stop thinking about Nov and risking a read my lips-no new taxes moment...and do the right thing, send in SOF to get these bastards to the 72 virgins as quickly as possible
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
84303 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:38 pm to
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Sure there is. He could stop thinking about Nov and risking a read my lips-no new taxes moment...and do the right thing, send in SOF to get these bastards to the 72 virgins as quickly as possible



It's chess, bro. Not checkers. Are biggest weapon against these guys is intel. You gotta be smart when striking these guys.
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:40 pm to
I couldn't make it past page 4 of this thread because of stupid fricking rednecks complaining about Obama.
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
69483 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:40 pm to
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FYI it's not just limited to wars and conflicts. I am also taking into account that violent crimes are also way down overall.


But the context of this conversation is about wars and conflicts and not about things like muggings and home invasions.
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19147 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:40 pm to
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You gotta be smart when striking these guys.


True. But as I said, its like a damn hydra - cut off one head and two more grow back...
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
33711 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:41 pm to
I'm not watching these videos any more, but is it is fake as the last one?
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:42 pm to
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True. But as I said, its like a damn hydra - cut off one head and two more grow back...



True, but when you attack the leadership, it can take a while for these groups to reorganize.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
30044 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:43 pm to
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Holy hell. The amount of ignorance in this thread is astounding. To sum it up: a) Obama doesn't care about MURICA cause he's taking time off. b) He thinks all of this is funny because of one image of him smiling.

The only thing you're doing with those opinions is making yourself look like a moronic FOX News parrot. Take some time to read actual material you stupid hillbillies, and come at him with the numerous reasons he should be ridiculed by the right.


Personally the way I see it is that this method has been tried.....people have now resorted to stupidity before the last option....just shut up and wait until 2016 gets here and hope we can afford the wait and implement the correct changes.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15693 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:43 pm to
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You gotta be smart when striking these guys.

No you don't, they're only the JV team.
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
176004 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:43 pm to
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But the context of this conversation is about wars and conflicts and not about things like muggings and home invasions.



What part of we (the human race) are the most peaceful we have ever been can some of you not grasp?

That includes ALL violence. Not just wars and conflicts.

ETA: My original response was to someone saying "we live in a sick world" so it wasn't limited to wars.
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by SabiDojo
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:44 pm to
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No you don't, they're only the JV team.



Who is the JV team?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19147 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Who is the JV team?


What Obama referred to ISIS as.
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13828 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:45 pm to
I was bored earlier today and looking at some ISIS fighter's Twitter accounts, and they are some sick frickers.

Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
176004 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:45 pm to
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He could stop thinking about Nov and risking a read my lips-no new taxes moment...



He's up for another election? That's news to...well to everyone.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
14783 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:46 pm to
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I'm not watching these videos any more, but is it is fake as the last one?


So you think the Foley video was fake?
Posted by Spaceman Spiff
Savannah
Member since Sep 2012
19147 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:47 pm to
Oh the heels of that, how accurate is this statement from an un-named news source?

quote:

The president's team has publicly suggested that the group only recently gained in strength, accounting for why Obama earlier this year dismissed such extremists as akin to a "JV" team.

But after suggestions that the administration may have been blindsided by the rise of ISIS, and that poor intelligence was to blame, the former Pentagon official said some of the intelligence was so good in the region, that when the president drew a red line on chemical weapons use in Syria in 2012, the information was "exquisite."

The source said "[we] were ready to fire, on a moment's notice, on a couple hundred targets," but no order was given. In some cases, targets were tracked for a "long period of time" but then slipped away.
This post was edited on 9/2/14 at 1:52 pm
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
15693 posts
Posted on 9/2/14 at 1:48 pm to
quote:

Who is the JV team?

According to our president, ISIS.

quote:

‘The analogy we use around here sometimes and is accurate is if a JV team puts on Laker uniforms, that doesn’t make them Kobe Bryant.’

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