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re: America is Balkanizing
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:13 pm to saint tiger225
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:13 pm to saint tiger225
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I love guns.
what’s your favorite to shoot out at the range? Let’s foster some bonding.
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Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:14 pm to crazy4lsu
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Again, you keep saying unintentionally funny shite. Do you think the conditions that made the French Revolution possible exist here?
A massive wealth distribution chasm? Different justice system for wealthy and poor? The disappearance of the middle class? Yep, I do. Just because there is no obvious royal figurehead to take down first doesn't mean the deeper issues that existed there don't exist here. Same thing has happened in different countries throughout the history of the world.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:16 pm to Ross
I'm not playing your little game. Furthermore, I'm not a leftist, but I know it's hard for you to believe that when someone disagrees with you. You automatically assume I'm a leftist bc of that.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:if cities typically voted conservatively, you wouldnt be crying about all of the power they hold over states
f DJT were presiding over the current inflation, the other side would be screaming about "muh poors."
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:17 pm to fightin tigers
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Eh, in some sense. Socializing the costs and privatizing the profits to the ruling class.
So many don't realize where they would fall in this.
Now, yes this is true, and too much hoi polloi never realize they have far more in common with "the other" on their same economic class than they do with the other classes. It is why the upper classes preach hating any other group that is not you. It is the only way they keep control.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 4:18 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:18 pm to saint tiger225
I genuinely wanted to find common ground.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:18 pm to PassingThrough
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A massive wealth distribution chasm? Different justice system for wealthy and poor? The disappearance of the middle class?
Right, and what side were landowners on?
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:19 pm to WestCoastAg
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if cities typically voted conservatively,
Nothing would change, Rupaul.
I want nullification processes for every level of govt.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:19 pm to PassingThrough
quote:Our entire gov't is full of royal figureheads. They're just not monarchs, at least not in the typical sense of the word.
Just because there is no obvious royal figurehead to take down
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:20 pm to RogerTheShrubber
i believe you
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:21 pm to Ross
We can find common ground. I'm all about that.
For me, common ground doesn't start with stripping away more rights.
For me, common ground doesn't start with stripping away more rights.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:21 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Nothing would change, Rupaul.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:25 pm to saint tiger225
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For me, common ground doesn't start with stripping away more rights.
I agree.
But letting people who can't name three branches of govt vote is a recipe for ideocracy.
For any "democracy" to work you have to have moral, educated people. We have neither.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:27 pm to saint tiger225
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For me, common ground doesn't start with stripping away more rights.
Philosophically, I think you’ve just won over most the libertarian and small government types.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:29 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:We're past that, we're at full blown Idiocracy now.
But letting people who can't name three branches of govt vote is a recipe for ideocracy.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:29 pm to Upperdecker
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We should go back to only land owners having votes. Would significantly reduce the power of large cities
Or jobs in the private sector.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:29 pm to fightin tigers
quote:No. Sales taxes for non-eligible voters would need to end. But property taxes would need to increase to make up the difference. Wouldn't you agree?
Sales tax would have to end if we went to land ownership only getting a vote. Wouldn't you agree?
ETA: Sales tax is arguably the only constitutionally valid tax anyway.
This post was edited on 2/5/23 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:30 pm to Ross
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genuinely wanted to find common ground.
We're too divided. Take the immigration issue. Just 10 years ago Democrats were not "no human is illegal" idiotic. That changed with Trump. Now both sides flopped on the issue.
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:30 pm to fightin tigers
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You sound like a monarchist.
Huh?
Posted on 2/5/23 at 4:30 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:does lifelong philandering drunks that left a wake across the lower forty eight count?
For any "democracy" to work you have to have moral, educated people. We have neither.
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