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re: Amazon will suspend cloud services to Parler, which can take the Twitter rival offline

Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:08 pm to
Posted by GentleJackJones
Member since Mar 2019
4641 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:08 pm to
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Do you really get $15.00 a month of value out of them ?



I mean, policy and politics aside, you’ll save that on shipping for 2-3 small packages.

ETA: I don’t care for Amazon, Google and so forth’s policies; however, they’re saving me a lot of money and making me a lot as well through investments.
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 4:13 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
281857 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:10 pm to
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just I totally respect Amazon's right to NOT carry Parler...

The issue here is that there are extremely limited platforms and this appears to be collusion. Anti trust laws exist for these reasons.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
117486 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:14 pm to
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Your momma should have done the world a favor and took it up the arse the night you were conceived.




Okay big bad bike gangsta..











This is some of the shite that is posted.

January 19th and 20th will be interesting.. And it is likely the reason you see what is happening with banning certain people from these platforms. And Google and Apple banning certain platforms. Its a security issue.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:14 pm to
quote:

John Roberts


Remember how quickly he was confirmed, and into the Chief Justice job at that? Someone's got dirt on that guy. I don't read all that QAnon crap, but if there's one area that really might be tightly controlled from behind-the-scenes it's the Supreme Court.

Look at Roberts, Souter, Earl Warren, and all the other judges who've turned liberal. Consider how Scalia died in the middle of the desert with a pillow on his face- no autopsy.

Who was David Souter? As far as I can tell, he's a closet homosexual who'd never made an important ruling in his life until he found himself a Supreme Court justice. That is what we got from a Republican administration.

This was the one area where Trump actually made some difference, and it probably explains the way he was treated as much as anything. (Nobody in the media or Congress actually gives a shite about Mexicans or blacks. )
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
25588 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:16 pm to
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It's clearly political censorship

is Amazon the government?

quote:

I may not want to force Amazon to host them

ok, then what's the problem?

quote:

big tech is left leaning so the censorship will all be one sided.

may lean left, but again, this is between two PRIVATE companies, not a private company being shut down by the government...

quote:

What are your thoughts on making a bakery bake a cake?

I think it's wrong.... I stated this in another thread yesterday or day before, if you'd like to go back and read my response...

quote:

What about one making people use the bathroom of their gender they were born as?

dude, trans people have been using their chosen sex bathroom for YEARS... point being, how do you know that the "guy" in the stall you think is taking a shite, isn't really a woman? you don't... just like your wife/gf doesn't know the that woman in the other stall is actually a dude... the entire argument of trans people using they opposite bathrooms will promote pedophilia and shite is ridiculous....
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44033 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:17 pm to
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This is some of the shite that is posted.



Yet this post was perfectly okay. And Khamenei is still on twitter.



Direct Link to the Tweet/Thread
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 4:19 pm
Posted by wheelr
Banned
Member since Jul 2012
5800 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:27 pm to
All summer Twitter was used by rioters and antifa for comms and coordination. I saw it play out.

Of course Twitter can't block everything. I don't believe it is possible (though some stuff is suspect).

With everything else that is going on and this move from Amazon, it is obvious there are different standards for different people.

It just so happens my prime sub is up for renewal on the 12th. I'm not renewing.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51552 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:27 pm to
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ok, then what's the problem?

Big tech and media companies are just about all left leaning and they can essentially silence all opposing voices if they want to
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
25588 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:32 pm to
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this appears to be collusion

appears, or is?

quote:

Anti trust laws exist for these reasons

let me guess... you are normally, anti-regulation, small government, right? EXCEPT, in this case... am I getting this right?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44033 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:34 pm to
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let me guess... you are normally, anti-regulation, small government, right? EXCEPT, in this case... am I getting this right?


So you're ok with monopolies and cartels existing?
This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 4:35 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51552 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:36 pm to
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So you're ok with monopolies and cartels existing?

As long as they support your cause it appears. It's a private business!

So what exactly does one do if Google, Amazon and Apple shutdown your platform? Start your own smartphone company?
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
25588 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:37 pm to
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So you're ok with monopolies and cartels existing?

nope, but I'm also not a small government, anti-regulation Republican, either....

Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
130176 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:37 pm to
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ok, then what's the problem?


Collusion by big tech to censor conservative thought on their platforms.

Also, and I haven't looked that closely, it appears Amazon made this decision and are giving them almost no time to find another hosting site? What's the rush as long as they are actively looking at options?
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
22418 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:39 pm to
The simple answer is that someone will start a conservative platform for some of these issues. I think the danger here is business wise Amazon and others are drawing a line in the sand on politics which is going to limit them financially in the future.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
137005 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:39 pm to
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What's the rush as long as they are actively looking at options?


Lives are at stake!!!

We can't wait!!!
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44033 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:40 pm to
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nope, but I'm also not a small government, anti-regulation Republican, either...


So do you see an issue with the fact that both Apple and Google deplatformed Parler when they own the entire mobile device app market between the two of them?
Posted by chRxis
None of your fricking business
Member since Feb 2008
25588 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:42 pm to
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So what exactly does one do if Google, Amazon and Apple shutdown your platform?

dunno... start your own tech company... nothing stopping anyone from doing that.... might now do all that much, or it could blow up and be the next hot thing...
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44033 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:43 pm to
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tart your own tech company... nothing stopping anyone from doing that


That's literally what Parler did in response to Twitter.

Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:43 pm to
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So you're ok with monopolies and cartels existing?


Parler can use another cloud service, buy its own servers, or rent servers from a traditional (i.e. non-cloud) host company. There's no cartel or monopoly here- and that's good.

Facebook, Twitter, etc. come closer to being monopolies but don't quite get there, in my opinion. If Trump really can't get his message out without Twitter, that's Trump's problem.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51552 posts
Posted on 1/10/21 at 4:44 pm to
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dunno... start your own tech company... nothing stopping anyone from doing that.... might now do all that much, or it could blow up and be the next hot thing...

A company that would take easily a decade to develop.

Stuff like this is just going to further divide the country and push people further into their political corners.
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