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re: Amazon seeking second headquarters for 50K employees

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Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31816 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 2:59 pm to
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The old Guide plant on Millhaven is ready to go.



I was thinking closer to Palmetto Rehab Facility. You know, for the children and all.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:02 pm to
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I mean, I agree with you to an extent (look at my prior posts in this very thread), but there are always significant exceptions like GE to Massachusetts and Boeing to Chicago (and even, more recently, McDonald's to the actual city of Chicago from the suburbs). Places make carve outs for huge firms like that if everything else is aligned well enough.
Of course. Obviously the coasts even with higher taxes has advantages over many of the states with the lowest tax rates.
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Silicon Valley doesn't have a great business environment concerning taxes, but it's second-to-none in pretty much everything else (attracting and retaining talent, financing, network, etc.
Of course. With some of the best universities in the world, and a huge population too, it's for distinct advantages. Plus clustering certain industries is often advantageous even though businesses are competing with one another.
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East Coast, specifically near university clusters.
Well that seems like stating the obvious. The east coast has over a third of the country, and if Amazon is looking at something other than the west coast then we are looking at over 40%.
Posted by AbuTheMonkey
Chicago, IL
Member since May 2014
8577 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:07 pm to
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East Coast, specifically near university clusters.
Well that seems like stating the obvious. The east coast has over a third of the country, and if Amazon is looking at something other than the west coast then we are looking at over 40%.


I was trying to be obvious without stating the actual city that I heard from multiple people (trying not to blab too much), but I think you can figure it out - huge tech and start up hub, major university cluster, international airport and city, etc.

It kind of sucks - I thought Chicago, Dallas, and Atlanta would be good candidates, and I would have loved for a place like Cincinnati or Detroit to get it (and they would be good spots) - but the rich get richer. They could definitely be wrong.
Posted by colorchangintiger
Dan Carlin
Member since Nov 2005
30979 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:08 pm to
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but I think you can figure it out - huge tech and start up hub, major university cluster, international airport and city, etc.



Boston? DC?
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:09 pm to
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No doubt. I'm not arguing it's not a good location by any means. I'm just saying that Cincinnati (or my preference, Columbus) shouldn't be dismissed because their local metro areas are smaller (still over 2 million) because they are close to other metro areas.


Would you be upset if it went to Cleveland?

My money is on a big northeastern city. Perhaps a suburb of Boston, NYC, or Philly. That could mean New Jersey gets this.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:10 pm to
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Would love Nashville, but I don't think we have the tech industry they are looking for.

Definitely check the other boxes, and we're centrally located and 3 hours from Fedex HQ.
Nashville seems like an obvious choice, but having lived in Nashville and Columbus (similar cities in many ways, especially the mode of transportation), Nashville's transportation infrastructure seems poorly equipped for the rapidly growing population already.

With 3 major interstates, it really needs a better outerbelt. 440 helps, but Briley seems to be wasted since it's mostly north and not that accessible to much of the city.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39441 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:10 pm to
theyre going to pay for it by price gouging Floridians
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
26432 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:13 pm to
Toronto is pretty big. Has a big airport.

Too bad it's in Canada.
This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 3:14 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:13 pm to
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Would you be upset if it went to Cleveland?
No. Although my wife would prefer to live in Cleveland than Columbus (right in the middle of our home towns), and I don't. Since my best argument against it is that it's losing population (although downtown has done well), so that would work to my disadvantage.
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:21 pm to
Why do people on this thread keep yammering about distance to ports or rail infrastructure or FedEx's headquarters or data centers?

This isn't going to be a warehouse. They're not shipping anything from it.

The whole point of data centers is remote access. You don't need to be near one.

It's going to be a huge office campus. For coders, engineers, ops, finance, and marketing people.

The primary concerns are:

1) Will our current Seattle people like living there and are there a good amount of top-flight coders, engineers, ops, finance, and marketing people already in the area or excited to move there?

2) How much will the state kickback to us for locating there?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:22 pm to
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Why do people on this thread keep yammering about distance to ports or rail infrastructure or FedEx's headquarters or data centers?

This isn't going to be a warehouse. They're not shipping anything from it.

The whole point of data centers is remote access. You don't need to be near one.

It's going to be a huge office campus. For coders, engineers, ops, finance, and marketing people.

The primary concerns are:

1) Will our current Seattle people like living there and are there a good amount of top-flight coders, engineers, ops, finance, and marketing people already in the area or excited to move there?

2) How much will the state kickback to us for locating there?



I think centrally located is a good way to attract talent from all over. That was my main point.

The Fedex HQ being here is just what we'd call lagniappe.

Posted by TheXman
Middle America
Member since Feb 2017
2984 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:23 pm to
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The city is already selected.



Hmm interesting. I wonder if your friends have a pretty good clue as to where.
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
103547 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:26 pm to
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The Fedex HQ being here is just what we'd call lagniappe.


I'd call that irrelevant.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:28 pm to
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Nashville seems like an obvious choice, but having lived in Nashville and Columbus (similar cities in many ways, especially the mode of transportation), Nashville's transportation infrastructure seems poorly equipped for the rapidly growing population already.

With 3 major interstates, it really needs a better outerbelt. 440 helps, but Briley seems to be wasted since it's mostly north and not that accessible to much of the city.


You ain't kiddin.

But this is a big enough thing to where a city could pledge to build infrastructure. (which I know already exists other places, just having fun here)

They could put it in Brentwood. Tons of land for a huge campus, great schools, great weather, no crime, etc.

Pipe dream, it won't happen.


And to your point, they need to finish the 840 loop:


(bottom part has long been done, this pic is old. Top part hasn't started though)

This post was edited on 9/7/17 at 3:29 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:29 pm to
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I'm going to guess Austin or Nashville
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
63032 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:30 pm to
This is going to Suburban Boston or Northern VA IMO. Maybe Philly
Posted by Cooter Davenport
Austin, TX
Member since Apr 2012
9006 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:31 pm to
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I think centrally located is a good way to attract talent from all over. That was my main point.


That's one of the most retarded things I have ever heard.

Being centrally located has zero to do with attracting talent.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:31 pm to
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Suburban Boston or Northern VA


Two of my likely guesses as well.

There or Texas somehwere.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:33 pm to
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huge tech and start up hub, major university cluster, international airport and city, etc.


NYC gets richer
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/7/17 at 3:33 pm to
Well that 840 loop will probably be finished in a hurry. TDOT is ramping up and is in the process of permitting dozens of major projects his that the gas tax has passed.

I'm not a big Haslam guy.. but I give him all the credit in the world for making infrastructure a priority
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