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Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:13 am to wadewilson
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Robotics and AI doesn't just make human labor obsolete.
Eventually, it will make most humans obsolete.
For AI to have a purpose, there has to be a demand. There have to be consumers that need it. Humans aren't going anywhere. They will adapt. Maybe we will get back to our roots and start growing our own food instead of depending on other people to feed us. It may be a great step forward.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:47 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I suspect a lot of white collar baws will have much different opinions then.
I agree with you. The economics of capitalism rely on destructive innovation. The people whose activity is replaced by more efficient activity suffer some dislocative pain. In almost all such cases they wail and moan. it was true of buggy whip manufacturers and it will be true of architects who are replaced by AI.
This tendency of capitalism to constantly innovate, improve and replace has been going on for a couple of hundred years, and it was going on long before capitalism - just slower. The critics of AI have so far been unable to articulate why it is different, even though it is a simple concept. What makes AI scary is the rate at which it could destroy and replace. This could represent the first time in history that the replacement takes place at a rate too fast for our economy to absorb the displaced workers. In the past, when this happened on a small scale, we made up for it with welfare type policies and payments.
It is going to be a challenge for our governors to find a way through this, either by slowing down AI implementation or by mass welfare (guaranteed income).
Posted on 10/24/25 at 8:52 am to Penrod
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I agree with you. The economics of capitalism rely on destructive innovation.
Humans are prone to use innovation to the detriment of most other humans, which is what will probably happen. I disagree with your statement only in that it could be used for widespread good, but will hurt producers the most.
Utopians sell AI employment takeover as a freeing of the population from being tied to wages, but they will just tie the population to a menial UBI payment instead, which will have detrimental effects for most.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:04 am to YouKnowImRight
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For AI to have a purpose, there has to be a demand. There have to be consumers that need it. Humans aren't going anywhere. They will adapt. Maybe we will get back to our roots and start growing our own food instead of depending on other people to feed us. It may be a great step forward.
Growing our food isn't an option for a lot of people. Maybe there isn't enough land, maybe the land isn't for sale, or maybe they can't afford it. Regardless, for us to get from where we are to people having to grow their own food, billions will die.
And is there really a need for humans? At the beginning of the 20th century there were no cars, little electricity, and flight hadn't been accomplished. At the beginning of the 21st century the cell phone was still a novelty for most people, and robots were something from sci-fi. Now, a new cell phone comes out every year that's more powerful than anything ever made and we have AI that can think for itself.
If you think AI and robotics is going to need humans by the 22nd century, you're not paying attention.
Technology advances exponentially.
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 9:05 am
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:08 am to wadewilson
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If you think AI and robotics is going to need humans by the 22nd century
I promise, I will not care by then.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:24 am to YouKnowImRight
So frick future generations?
Boomer mindset.
Boomer mindset.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:36 am to The Torch
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It's not if all things are equal but if you are hiring one person over another due to the color of their skin to meet a quota it's wrong.
Get hired on merit.
Since when do we as a country do anything on merit??
It's about who you know and who you relate to as it has always been
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:38 am to YStar
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Since when do we as a country do anything on merit??
We always have. We are a nation of sheep led by a few visionaries.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
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they will just tie the population to a menial UBI payment instead, which will have detrimental effects for most.
Excellent point!
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:34 am to wadewilson
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So frick future generations?
Boomer mindset.
Pretty much yeah. Like every generation since the dawn of time. Overcome the challenges left from previous generation, survive, try to thrive, die and let next generation fix their own shite.
Do all communists just sit around and dream of being trust fund babies? Oh wait...that's exactly what communists do.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:37 am to RogerTheShrubber
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We always have. We are a nation of sheep led by a few visionaries.
Couldn't have said it better myself.
This is why democracy as a system is so fragile. Over half the population would rather be fat and warm in dependence than risk being cold and hungry in freedom.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Humans are prone to use innovation to the detriment of most other humans,
Other than weaponry, can you name one case where this is true?
Humans use innovation to benefit the population. There are collateral damages, but the intention is to better our standard of living.
Except for weaponry. Killing you if definitely to your detriment.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 10:41 am to YouKnowImRight
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Other than weaponry, can you name one case where this is true?
Social Media, Porn
Posted on 10/24/25 at 11:44 am to YouKnowImRight
You're too dumb to waste any more time on
Posted on 10/24/25 at 2:07 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Social Media, Porn
Again, collateral damage. In some twisted way those were created for entertainment purposes, not to destroy humanity
Posted on 10/24/25 at 2:08 pm to wadewilson
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You're too dumb to waste any more time on
In a battle of wits, you bring a rusty knife to a gun fight.
Posted on 10/24/25 at 2:08 pm to YouKnowImRight
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Again, collateral damage.
Humans cannot handle freedom or choice, and its getting worse. We've proven it many times. The only things that keep us behaving are the external things we value.
This post was edited on 10/24/25 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 10/24/25 at 2:14 pm to AlonsoWDC
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Learn to code, dipshits.
Better yet, just learn how to ask AI to write code.
Awhile back I started a project on ChatGPT in which it started writing code for a game app.
I know very little about coding, but I have about 20% of a game written
Posted on 10/24/25 at 5:25 pm to RLDSC FAN
Anyone cheering this on should consider the near future when over 50% of jobs are phased out by automation and nothing new is opening up. Should be fun times.
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