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re: Alton Sterling shooting - discussion thread

Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:43 am to
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
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Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:43 am to
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Or take off running


hit him in the back with a taser. No way that guy could outrun those two officers. Have one officer draw his pistol and the other draw his taser. Now you have both options on the scene and can choose accordingly to his counteraction.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 11:47 am
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:47 am to
quote:

hit him in the back with a taser


Did you not see that the tasers were not effective?

quote:

No way that guy could outrun those two officers


No, but he could create enough distance to be able to get his weapon out and start shooting.

Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:47 am to
quote:

If he stays belly down and surrenders his hands, they cuff him, remove the gun from his pocket, and process him like any other day.




True, but people have argued against letting him stay upright because they said he obviously wasn't complying, so the same argument can be used about taking him to the ground.

In other words, if you don't think letting stand up is going to help because it gives him easier access to his gun, then you obviously think it is reasonable that he'll go for his weapon, so taking him to the ground when he's bigger than you and has already overcome two Tasers seems like the worse of the two scenarios.

Taking him to the ground may have been the better call, but not for the reasons stated.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:47 am to
quote:


hit him in the back with a taser. No way that guy could outrun those two officers


He had already been tazed and was unfazed. Also, it doesn't matter if he can outrun them. If he takes off, he gets far enough away to draw his weapon. He can also take a position of cover in that short time or get to a less lit area.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91836 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:50 am to
quote:

No, but he could create enough distance to be able to get his weapon out and start shooting.



I understand that, but that doesn't seem like a reasonable outcome given the two officers had him cornered against the car, another car, and his CD table. He also was just standing there. Running at that point seems highly unlikely.
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14947 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:50 am to
Thank you BRPD for taking all of the news coverage.


Sincerely,

Chicago, Baltimore, St.Louis,etc
Posted by BobLeeDagger
In Your Head
Member since May 2016
7481 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:51 am to
lol, who is going to run away from two cops with guns pointed at them no more than 3 feet away?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52090 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:52 am to
quote:

Taking him to the ground may have been the better call, but not for the reasons stated


Jesus dude

You're questioning whether the shooting should have taken place while simultaneously questioning them for trying to resolve the matter without deadly force first.

Posted by dbeck
Member since Nov 2014
29454 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:53 am to
quote:

If he takes off

We killing people based on possible actions now?
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:53 am to
quote:

He had already been tazed and was unfazed.


tazed and unfazed, that's my next band name.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178782 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:55 am to
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I really do hope for a world where all lives actually matter. INCLUDING leo lives.

Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
178782 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:56 am to
quote:


Jesus dude

You're questioning whether the shooting should have taken place while simultaneously questioning them for trying to resolve the matter without deadly force first.



slackster confirms that he's not professional tactician in these matters then proceeds to input his unprofessional ignorant opinion on the matter.
Posted by J Murdah
Member since Jun 2008
40189 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:57 am to
The officers have fulfilled the prophesy they were put on this planet for. I wonder what the rest of us are destined to do.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
89068 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 11:58 am to
quote:

We killing people based on possible actions now?


No, he was killed for his actual actions.
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:05 pm to
all cops should be black.

like yea I might be racially profiled because i’m a white. but at worst i’ll just get a speeding ticket or an open container because i’m a white male and i abide by the most important laws of society.

i should be prez.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
107901 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

We killing people based on possible actions now?


So what do you think the cops should've done? They had tazed him twice, he was still resistant, and they knew he had a gun on him as it had been reported.

Wait until he does pull it all the way out at close range and shoot one of them before they act?
Posted by GM
Baker
Member since May 2011
1062 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:06 pm to
Even before he made the decision to resist, he made the decision to carry a gun (illegal as a felon) concealed (illegal without CCP). If he resisted and didn't have the gun, he wouldn't have been shot.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Thank you BRPD for taking all of the news coverage.


Sincerely,

Chicago, Baltimore, St.Louis, Hillary, etc


Fixed
Posted by GM
Baker
Member since May 2011
1062 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

lol, who is going to run away from two cops with guns pointed at them no more than 3 feet away?



Kewan, Dewayne, Ra'Shawn, etc...
Posted by UNO
Member since Mar 2015
4961 posts
Posted on 7/6/16 at 12:19 pm to
"you fricking move i swear to god"

dude musta moved
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