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Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:13 am to baldona
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So who does "deserve to die"?
I would say that a convicted pedophile that resisted arrest while carrying a gun illegally is about as close at it comes.
Are any of those actions punishable by death? Did he have to die?
I'm in no way, shape, or form defending him, but the extreme views by some in this thread are ridiculous. Was it his fault? Probably. Was it avoidable? Certainly. Did he deserve to die? No, not IMO.
Saying he deserved to die implies that his actions are punishable by death. It also tends to imply that killing him was the only acceptable outcome.
This wasn't a murderous rampage on some shooting spree, but the cops did what they had to do once the situation reached that point. I'm not ready to say he deserved to die.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:13 am to tduecen
gotta be fake, we don't have counties
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:14 am to slackster
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That was the point of a few of us last night and where my questions about procedure come into place. If you knew he had a gun, tackling him and taking him to the ground escalates the frick out of the situation since he was simply standing there prior to the tackle (we don't know what he was doing prior).
FYI in the very beginning of the video on twitter you can hear what I'm almost positive is the Taser going off. So no, it is not like the cops were just standing there and decided to take him to the ground out of no where.
Before searching someone for a weapon, I'm pretty sure that is usually procedure to put them in handcuffs for officer safety. I'm sure that is all they were trying to do and he didn't comply, then they tased him and it didn't change anything. At that point, he is resisting arrest but they have yet to see a gun.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:14 am to slackster
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Saying he deserved to die implies that his actions are punishable by death.
His actions were, according to the laws we have. frick him.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:14 am to Jester
quote:You probably right
I don't think you understand what a "Mexican standoff" is....
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:15 am to tduecen
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Sterling, a Bloods gang banger and a registered Democrat, had quite the rap sheet before he was gunned down in an altercation with the police. The charges include battery, assault, drug and weapons charges, and being a dead beat dad. He was also a pedophile.
I love that they crowbar "registered democrat" into that sentence.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:16 am to tduecen
woah, nice find deuce
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:16 am to 777Tiger
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gotta be fake, we don't have counties
Could be from a national database where our parishes are listed as counties for simplicity.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:16 am to musick
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 10:18 am
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:18 am to airfernando
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How do you know there was no gun?
Isn't La an open carry State? why should having a gun matter, if he wasn't pointing it at them?
Dude gets kilt for selling CDs. SMDH
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:18 am to Mung
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why should having a gun matter
He was a convicted felon.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:19 am to musick
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The fact that he had a gun in his possession and was resisting, AFTER being tazered was honestly enough.
If the gun was in his pocket I don't see how that is enough. If he was the aggressor in the video that would be one thing, but we don't see that. We see him get tackled, pinned, rolled on his back, and then restrained on the left side of his body. We don't know what is going on with his right arm. If the officer around his waist saw the gun and the officer at his chest didn't, but assumed he was going for it, then I can't really blame him for shooting but it doesn't make it any less of a fricked up situation.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:20 am to lsuhunt555
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why should having a gun matter
He was a convicted felon.
What does that matter? We don't know that they knew he was convicted felon, and it certainly isn't punishable by death on its own.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:21 am to Mung
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Isn't La an open carry State? why should having a gun matter, if he wasn't pointing it at them?
1. They were called there because he was brandishing it and threatening people with it.
2. He is a convicted felon, thus it is illegal for him to own or carry a gun.
3. The gun was stolen, see 2.
4. He was resisting the officers while in illegal possession of stolen gun.
5. He didn't get killed for selling illegal CDs, see 1-4.
ETA: He was not open carrying. The illegal, stolen gun was being illegally carried illegally concealed.
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 10:24 am
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:21 am to Salmon
Holy crap. JBL just said the lead investigators will be the US DOJ.
He said he spoke with BRPD and is disturbed.
Link- the live conference
He said he spoke with BRPD and is disturbed.
Link- the live conference
This post was edited on 7/6/16 at 10:22 am
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:21 am to lsuhunt555
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He was a convicted felon.
at the time of the incident, this is irrelevant, no?
the cops didn't know this
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:21 am to slackster
Come on man. The whole reason the cops were called was due to a civilian calling in stating that he was brandishing the gun at them. It's not like he was just there minding his own business.
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:21 am to slackster
Look at that arrest report. You think they didn't know him? 
Posted on 7/6/16 at 10:22 am to slackster
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If the gun was in his pocket I don't see how that is enough. If he was the aggressor in the video that would be one thing, but we don't see that. We see him get tackled, pinned, rolled on his back, and then restrained on the left side of his body. We don't know what is going on with his right arm. If the officer around his waist saw the gun and the officer at his chest didn't, but assumed he was going for it, then I can't really blame him for shooting but it doesn't make it any less of a fricked up situation.
It's pretty obvious that he was resisting the arrest. That much is clear. The report says he was tazered as well. He continues to resist AFTER the cops get him to the ground and see the gun and announce it.
What did you want the cops to do? Wait till he gets free and fires off some shots first? He was already convicted of a gun charge, he had an illegal gun again. That's 25 to life, he very easily could have taken any chance he had with not much to lose.
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