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re: Allie Long (USWNT flag dropper) hotel room robbed during ESPYs

Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:40 am to
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35560 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:40 am to
quote:

And nobody has said anything about the players draping themselves in the flag and running around the field


Because most probably view that as a "proud to be representing my country" moment.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20896 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Disrespected the flag.


:sigh:

That flag represents the freedom of expression, not whatever you agree with.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Because most probably view that as a "proud to be representing my country" moment.



Probably. But it's still disrespecting the flag according the US Flag Code.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43338 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:47 am to
quote:

Froman


So, about that evidence?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51908 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:47 am to
I’m not speaking for everyone. Everyone has their own views. Just because that guy over there is a hypocrite doesn’t invalidate the quoted bit.

So spare me the generalization straw man as a response to my posts.

You don’t have to follow the Flag Code to be respectful.

I seriously doubt the teammate that ran over had a monologue of “OH NO, THE CODE!”

Btw, most of what you are describing aren’t even code violations, even by the strictest interpretation so not sure what you are going on about.

It all guidelines to show respect anyway.

The only thing of your list that bothers me (even when people like Greenwood do it) is wearing clothing fashioned like a flag.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56364 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:50 am to
quote:

I'm not even sure she said anything on the subject during interviews
Nah, just an entire SI article about it in the June 3-10 issue.

Megan Rapinoe Will Be Heard

Yeah, I'm sure that was totally organic and not timed right after the start of the WC for publicity or anything.

And then she went on to talk about it in press conferences, which of course bitching about a host of other things.

LINK

And lest we forget, she started doing this shite back in 2016, before Trump was president.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:53 am to
quote:

And lest we forget, she started doing this shite back in 2016, before Trump was president.


Forget? I didn't even know who rapinoe was until about a month ago. 2016?
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51908 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:55 am to


quote:


Probably. But it's still disrespecting the flag according the US Flag Code
.


quote:

The United States Flag Code establishes advisory rules for display and care of the national flag of the United States of America.


The code doesn’t claim to define what disrespect means. Nor does it explicitly cite running around with it in pride and celebration as disrespect.

Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:56 am to
"Grow men" don't. Thing is, this board is full of kids both chronologically and mentally.
Think trying to have a discussion with your 12 year old neighbor. That's what this place has become
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51908 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:57 am to
Oh and by the way, just to stamp the delusion that people are just using this as a hollow excuse to bitch at someone whose politics they don’t like, here is literally the exact same thing happening to a non controversial athlete last year.

LINK
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
35560 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Nor does it explicitly cite running around with it in pride and celebration as disrespect


What it does say is don't hang it upside down. They don't.
It does say that it is to fall free. I guess draping it isn't allowing it to fall freely but it is hanging on them in the proper position.

quote:

The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way


I guess ships need to stop flying the colors because those flags most certainly get destroyed over time.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
19197 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Are you being serious right now?


The bigger question is, are you being serious right now?

You cannot be this stupid but you are proving it, that's for sure.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:03 am to
So the 3 examples you bring to the table all occurred BEFORE the first match of the WC was played on July 7th.

Nothing to show she ran her mouth the entire WC?


Rapinoe was always going to get press during the WC because she's one of the best players on the team. And I agree a lot of the press she got was a result of statements and actions she's taken in her career unrelated to soccer. Your claim though was she pulled a "Kris Jenner PR stunt" during the WC and ran her mouth the entire WC. Neither of those things happened.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 11:05 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:10 am to
quote:

Nor does it explicitly cite running around with it in pride and celebration as disrespect.



I'd argue that is covered under the wearing the flag as clothing section.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56364 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:10 am to
quote:

So the 3 examples you bring to the table all occurred BEFORE the first match of the WC was played on July 7th.

The WC began on JUNE 7. July 7th was the championship game.

quote:

Your claim though was she pulled a "Kris Jenner PR stunt" during the WC
SI article timed right at the beginning of the WC.

Well, shite, you didn't know when the cup was, so frick your whole argument.

Thanks for allowing me to save face, though.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 11:12 am
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:13 am to
quote:

The WC began on JUNE 7. July 7th was the championship game.




Excuse my brain fart. I clearly meant June 7th. The interview happened BEFORE the WC, and was posted to SI the day before the WC began.
This post was edited on 7/12/19 at 11:14 am
Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
54846 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:15 am to
I own a pair of American Flag swim trunks

Is that disrespectful?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:17 am to
quote:

Is that disrespectful?



Honestly, I don't really give a shite.


Maybe one of the resident flag worshipers can answer you.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
56364 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:19 am to
quote:

The interview happened BEFORE the WC, and was posted to SI the day before the WC began.
Right, hence the Kris Jenner publicity stunt.

You're getting it! You're getting it!

Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171037 posts
Posted on 7/12/19 at 11:20 am to
So do I.

I also have this shirt from Target

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