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re: Alleged video of Ahmaud Arbery shooting leaks
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:56 am to jchamil
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:56 am to jchamil
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And there was $2500 worth of fishing equipment in it? A house with no door?
According to the homeowner there was. Also there were multiple videos of a man entering the property over a two month period that were shown to Arbery's aunt. She confirmed the video from the property the day he was killed was him but could not confirm it was him in the other videos.
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Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:56 am to The Pirate King
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I present facts to support my views
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The local DA did most of the legwork and didn’t find enough to even arrest the guys.
Totally not because of conflict of interest that resulted in both local DAs getting recused.
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Rewatched the video, and again the literal fatal mistake was rushing a guy with a gun pointed at you. Not saying the guys were right in the slightest, but why is this the first instinct for some people?
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The first shot wasn’t fired until he rushed the shooter, then the second and third were fired while they were struggling over the gun.
So. Many. Facts.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:58 am to mouton
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According to the homeowner there was. Also there were multiple videos of a man entering the property over a two month period that were shown to Arbery's aunt. She confirmed the video from the property the day he was killed was him but could not confirm it was him in the other videos.
So is the neighbor arguing it was stolen that day? Or in the two months before that?
And who leaves $2500 worth of fishing equipment in an unsecured location?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:59 am to The Pirate King
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I’m sorry, I’m not going to crucify cops for going on the only information they had when making the “mam, your son has been in an accident” call/visit.
Maybe take a look at the police report written on the day of the incident and report back.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 10:59 am to The Pirate King
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Considering the only evidence they had to go on was the story of the people doing the blocking/shooting, how can you blame the cops for not IMMEDIATELY having the exact story of what happened?
So police investigators don't know the difference between a shotgun and a handgun?
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:00 am to BluegrassBelle
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So lets assume this is the video the neighbor previously showed the two guys who ended up murdering Arbery.
Is there any evidence that the person entering on the video was Arbery?
Even if it did and arbery was 100% guilty of all the theft in the area for the past 2 years....its 100%wrong to go out of your way to chase him down and shoot him in the street.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:00 am to BluegrassBelle
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So is the neighbor arguing it was stolen that day? Or in the two months before that?
No it was previously stolen and there were multiple videos of someone entering the house that matched his description.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:01 am to Antonio Moss
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So police investigators don't know the difference between a shotgun and a handgun?
Come on now, you can't expect men in a small town in Georgia to know the difference between a handgun and a shotgun
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:02 am to The Pirate King
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I’m sorry, I’m not going to crucify cops for going on the only information they had when making the “mam, your son has been in an accident” call/visit.
Except what they told the mother was factually untrue, and they knew it when they told her. And they made no attempt to correct that mistake until a news report came out about the incident. That is a pretty big mistake that they should be held accountable for, unless you equate any accountability as equaling metaphorical crucifixion.
Not only that, if they had the video on the day of the incident, as has been reported, then they knew what they were telling the mom was a lie.
This isn't hard to follow man, and I have no idea why you seem to be mistaking accountability for persecution. The moral quandary at play is elementary. Maybe such morality gets complicated for you for some reason, but also maybe take a step back and realize what you are arguing.
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You can argue the fact that they didn’t follow up with more details after the initial call/visit, but I don’t know the police procedures for disclosing info about an active investigation.
They misrepresented his cause of death entirely. This isn't a case of missed details deserving of a follow-up.
Again, if they had the video the day of the incident, then numerous things shouldn't have made it into the police report (count the shots for me in the video) and they should have told the mother the truth of what happened. The fact that they didn't invites intrigue, and an outside investigation, where hopefully they will be crucified.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 11:04 am
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:03 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Maybe take a look at the police report written on the day of the incident and report back.
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I began speaking with Gregory McMichael who was a witness to the incident . McMichael stated there have been several Break - ins in the neighborhood and further the suspect was caught on surveillance video. Mi his front yard and saw the suspect from the break-ins "hauling arse" down Satilla Drive toward Burford Drive. McMichael stated he then ran inside his house and called to Travis ( ) and said " Travis the guy is running down the street lets go". McMichael stated he went to his bedroom and grabbed his . Magnum and Travis grabbed his shotgun because they " didn ' t know if the male was armed or not" . Michael stated " the other night" they saw the same male and he stuck his hand down his pants which lead them to believe the male was armed
This (from the police report from one of the responding officers) seems to support everything I’ve posted so far.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 11:06 am
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:03 am to Mo Jeaux
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ACksHUaLy, U dON't UNderSTAND WHat UH StraWmAN RguMINT is.
Well, you don't.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:05 am to The Pirate King
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This (from one of the responding officers) seems to support everything I’ve posted so far.
Post the rest of it and let's see if it supports everything you've posted
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:05 am to The Pirate King
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This (from one of the responding officers) seems to support everything I’ve posted so far.
Please stop the lies.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:06 am to The Pirate King
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Magnum and Travis grabbed his shotgun because they " didn ' t know if the male was armed or not" . Michael stated " the other night" they saw the same male and he stuck his hand down his pants which lead them to believe the male was armed
Why would you chase down someone who you thought may have been armed?
I'm not putting my life in danger (death or jail), over fishing equipment no matter how expensive.
Observe direction of travel, call the police.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:07 am to The Pirate King
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This (from one of the responding officers) seems to support everything I’ve posted so far.
What self defense starts witha phone call to your baw to grab your guns were going to chase this guy down. He’s probably armed because he put his hands in his pants the other night.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:07 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Please stop the lies.
What lies exactly? I’m literally posting what was in the police report of the incident
That is exactly what was told to the officer.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:08 am to mouton
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No it was previously stolen and there were multiple videos of someone entering the house that matched his description.
So it was previously stolen but not on the day that the incident occurred. And Arbery's Aunt only identified that it was Arbery at the site on the video from the day he was shot when nothing was stolen. And the shooters admit they didn't see him doing anything else and he isn't carrying anything in the video.
Sounds like, once again, they had no legal authority to attempt a citizen's arrest.
This post was edited on 5/7/20 at 11:09 am
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:08 am to Box Geauxrilla
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Why would you chase down someone who you thought may have been armed? I'm not putting my life in danger (death or jail), over fishing equipment no matter how expensive. Observe direction of travel, call the police
Not arguing this point whatsoever. They were stupid to follow him and do what they did.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:09 am to The Pirate King
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That is exactly what was told to the officer.
You said that the cops told the mom what they (the cops) were told.
Except what the cops told the mom is no where close to what they were told by the shooter.
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Jones said she was told Arbery was shot while struggling with a homeowner for a handgun during a burglary. She said she did not learn Arbery was shot after the two men pursued him in a pickup truck through the neighborhood until The News reported it on April 1.
Posted on 5/7/20 at 11:09 am to The Pirate King
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This (from one of the responding officers) seems to support everything I’ve posted so far.
Uh, it's not from an officer, it's from the dad who clearly did not tell the truth in his statement.
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Michael stated " the other night" they saw the same male and he stuck his hand down his pants which lead them to believe the male was armed
Wait, they thought he was armed because on a separate night someone who might not have been Arbery stuck his hand down his pants?
I thought the hand down the pants was some BS to start with, but I figured they were at least claiming they saw it the same day.
This is straight out of Chris Rock's standup routine about how some white people think every black man is armed at all times.
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