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re: Alabama cops shoots man exiting his vehicle with his wallet
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:49 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:49 am to NYNolaguy1
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I assume that most cops can accurately tell the difference between someone with their hands in the air holding a wallet, versus someone pulling out a gun and pointing it at them.
Do you assume that's what happened in this instance? That the police officer was able to discern that it was a wallet? That's the relevant question.
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Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:50 am to NYNolaguy1
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Nope. Courts ruled the shoot justified.
Careful out there.
Do you know why?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:50 am to NYNolaguy1
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Courts ruled the shoot justified.
that doesn't relieve the state of a civil suit though...right?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:51 am to tke857
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2nd thing those cops are fricked.
They cleared him, I believe
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:51 am to Pecker
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Pecker
Good god, you are so fricking retarded.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:51 am to Topwater Trout
That's correct.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:51 am to Pecker
quote:
That the police officer was able to discern that it was a wallet?
Clearly he wasn't.
So, as the driver, now being shot at for doing absolutely nothing illegal -should he be able to defend himself against a potential life threatening force?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:52 am to Pecker
Put the shovel down Pecker.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:52 am to Pecker
quote:A cop who arrives to a wreck with cars pulled over shouldn't shoot within 2 seconds of a motorist exiting his vehicle with his hands up if he doesn't know what's in his hand. Period.
That the police officer was able to discern that it was a wallet?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:52 am to Aubie Spr96
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This is my biggest problem. All dashcam and bodycam video should be public domain. The only possible motivation for not revealing it is guilt.
Lolno
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:53 am to Pecker
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Nope. My argument is not that he was afraid of the wallet. My argument is that he did not believe it to be a wallet.
Do you believe that he knew it WAS in fact a wallet? If so, we have a different argument to attend to.
You seriously think this shooting was justified?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:53 am to NYNolaguy1
quote:Yea, that's what annoys me. Kinda like the no knock raids.
So, as the driver, now being shot at for doing absolutely nothing illegal -should he be able to defend himself against a potential life threatening force?
If that kid was somehow able to grab a gun he had concealed AFTER he was shot and shot the cop dead, he would be charged. That's BS. I know it didn't happen so being upset about something that didnt' happen is silly, I get it. It's just the idea that the cop can get away with that with no repercussions at all, that's pretty bad.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:53 am to Pecker
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Do you assume that's what happened in this instance? That the police officer was able to discern that it was a wallet? That's the relevant question.
So, your idea is that cops should be able to shoot immediately even if they aren't being threatened based on the idea they can't identify an object?
Holy smokes.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:54 am to shel311
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It's just the idea that the cop can get away with that with no repercussions at all, that's pretty bad.
Exactly this ^^^
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:54 am to BayouBengals18
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Good god, you are so fricking retarded.
Sorry, that's not an argument.
Do you know why the courts ruled the shooting justified?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
In very extreme circumstances, yes.
This wasn't one of those times.
This wasn't one of those times.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:55 am to RogerTheShrubber
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So, your idea is that cops should be able to shoot immediately even if they aren't being threatened based on the idea they can't identify an object?
Holy smokes.
No, if I had it my way police officers would be much better trained to react in these instances.
I'm living in the real world though where people make poor decisions based off very little information.
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:55 am to Pecker
quote:Because how can you disprove a cop was "reasonably afraid for his life" if he says so?
Do you know why the courts ruled the shooting justified?
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:56 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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You seriously think this shooting was justified?
He's not saying the shooting was justified.
Hes saying the shooting was logical.
He's a fricking idiot
Posted on 3/13/17 at 10:56 am to Tchefuncte Tiger
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You seriously think this shooting was justified?
The courts did. Do you know why?
Do you know why the arguments that people are making here wouldn't hold up in court? It's because they aren't logical. A judge has already decided that.
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