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re: Airbnb host sent guest’s wife security photo of him with another woman, lawsuit claims

Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:01 pm to
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:01 pm to
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I’m not claiming to know where the truth lies on this one, but these hosts are known to change the rules mid game to milk more money out of their guests. I once had a host try to charge me for having extra guests and an undocumented pet at the lake house I rented for my family the week before. I sent him the correspondence where I informed him my child (the “extra guest”) would be accompanying my wife and I, and asking him what info he needed on my dog. He then changed course and tried to charge me for damaging his router and not running the dishwasher when we left.



How the hell do these nutjobs not get reviews that would bury their little business?

I've never used AirBNB but have heard of this sort of thing for years. One reason I'll likely never use them.
Posted by Dirk Dawgler
Georgia
Member since Nov 2011
4311 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:14 pm to
Get a no sign up fee CC. Book on the CC. On date of arrival, cancel CC. Tell host you had concern of fraudulent activity. Tell host you don’t have any other CCs. Tell host you will overnight a money order for balance.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81387 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 5:25 pm to
Cheating aside, sounds like he kept upping the ante which is pretty shitty on his part considering there were very clear ground rules in place.

It went from him initially saying "I'm just going to have a few people over" to "Hey, a few more people are coming, but not staying" to "a few people are going to be staying" to "Hey, I'm having a full blown rager"
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89841 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:41 pm to
who would rent from that psycho?




Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89841 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:46 pm to
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Eh, it's her 6-figure investment, I'd have a pulse on my investment as well. Even if she is controlling, she gave him the rules, he agreed to comply by said rules, broke them anyway and skipped payment. Two wrongs don't make a right, but the dude is an idio



Where are some of you getting this info from?


It appears he just refused to pay the fines she tacked on.

5 people staying at a house that sleeps 12 isn’t a party



Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
139495 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:58 pm to
How did the hist have the wife's contact info? Are they friends?
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
10623 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 6:59 pm to
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How the hell do these nutjobs not get reviews that would bury their little business?
Apparently they try to charge the negative reviewer a fine/fee and get reviewer’s profile suspended.
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$300 stemming related to the “moderation” of his negative review.



The whole story is from his point of view, so it might not hold.

The extortion thru “interstate text messaging” first depends on if that is even the owner’s number and verifiable. If so it looks a little bad with his context added in article based on his court filing, but the wife could have been involved at that point with the profile used to rent rooms at their house now suspended and/or owner just being a bitch to the guy at that point. He admittedly asked Airbnb to get all the pics and videos. No explicit attempt to extort and seems like no extortion implied.

The email to wife with a fake address is taking being a bitch a step further in a passive aggressive way if it can even be proven it was her as pic already out there to the guy at that point (more his word on wife not knowing beforehand). Still not extortion and more being a bitch while avoiding it being easily linked to her or her profile.

Even coming from his POV this seems more like AirBnB internal dispute not a lawsuit, and lawsuit seems almost like trying to get back at owner with bad press more than being a valid claim.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15077 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:29 pm to
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It went from him initially saying "I'm just going to have a few people over" to "Hey, a few more people are coming, but not staying" to "a few people are going to be staying" to "Hey, I'm having a full blown rager"


It said the place can occupy 12 people even if they stay or not. He only had to list 12 names. As long as more than 12 don’t show up, he’s in compliance. The article says only 5 showed up. Sounds like he is good. How is she going to know if one of the guests on the list showed up or not. He’s still way under the max limit. This owner is bat shite crazy.

I’ve rented air bnbs from all over the US. Only issue I had was one guy pestered me for days to write him a review after I left because I was one of the first to stay. And he was a perfect host that left two bottles of complimentary wine when we first arrived.
This post was edited on 2/19/24 at 7:32 pm
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:36 pm to
Ok yall are not gonna like me but I have a lot to say on this. Im an Airbnb host...but before yall get on me ive never charged a guest an extra dime, despite broken furniture, scratched floors, theft, dented appliances, broken house rules and late checkouts. My checkout instructions: "well take care of everything just leave used beds unmade"

Now that thats out of the way...I feel for this host. Whenever you rent to black folks and they say something like "we are just gonna have some friends over" it means they are gonna throw a party, break shite, smoke inside, and make your neighbors hate you. This host woman knew what was up. She sensed right away what was gonna happen. The dude booked her house to have a party and no amount of "concerned messages" was from host was gonna change that.

Honestly, I cringe every time black folks book my listing. Black folks, you really need to be better and hold yourselves more accountable for how yall treat other folks property. 4 out of 5 times...theres gonna be something broken, smoke smell, sheets or furniture ruined, or something. Literally 4 out of 5 times. I do really feel bad for the black
folks that do respect others property as they get lumped in with the rest.

The dude is a POS. The host lady needs to get thicker skin. You are gonna have bad guests occasionally. Take your L like everyone else does, and dont do something so incredibly stupid like email a guests wife.

Ok im done
Posted by Monty Brewster
Member since Feb 2024
232 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:37 pm to
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The landlord sounds like a total control freak.


I hosted a bit last year. There’s an extra fee per guest after 2. Don’t sign up for 2 guests if you have more people staying overnight. I just have a ring doorbell so I can see who comes in and who comes out, how many cars are parked there overnight. You have to disclose all your cameras. So whatever was there, he would have to know about.

Some Air BNB renters can be total assholes. I got a bad rating for “accuracy” because there was “no full length mirror” in the house and no ironing board, even though the ironing board was in the closet and there was no full length mirror advertised.
Posted by Monty Brewster
Member since Feb 2024
232 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:40 pm to
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The white owner didn’t want a ghetto house party at her Airbnb that would cause issues with the neighbors. She got complaints. Fined the renters. Renters didn’t pay the fine. She then got personal.




House parties are against ordinances in a lot of places and many people don’t allow them at all. Not to mention quiet hours. Neighbors don’t like being next to air bnb’s and you can get your permit revoked if someone really wants to frick with you. Some states have restrictions on number of guests allowed in a short term rental PERIOD.

The white owner was owed money, asked for it, and it was declined. So she extorted him. I don’t agree with the extortion part, but pay the woman what she’s owed.
Posted by Monty Brewster
Member since Feb 2024
232 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:42 pm to
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You missed an opportunity to try to catch them on a count of video voyeurism.


Since it’s technically their property they’re allowed to have cameras in plain sight. But, Air BNB only allows them if they disclose them first, and they’re not allowed in bedrooms or bathrooms at all. None of that is illegal, but will get you kicked off the platform immediately if you break those rules.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:42 pm to
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Get a no sign up fee CC. Book on the CC. On date of arrival, cancel CC. Tell host you had concern of fraudulent activity. Tell host you don’t have any other CCs. Tell host you will overnight a money order for balance.


You dont pay the host, you pay Airbnb...who pays the host. They have your ID and you will pay it or have your credit ruined
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
56065 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:43 pm to
Players gonna play play play
Posted by Monty Brewster
Member since Feb 2024
232 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:48 pm to
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It said the place can occupy 12 people even if they stay or not. He only had to list 12 names. As long as more than 12 don’t show up, he’s in compliance.


That’s not how it works. Extra guests after 2 guests typically charge 15-25 per guest, some may do it after 4, but most hosts charge extra for each guest. They have to be on the reservation. Saying it sleeps up to 12 doesn’t mean you get to invite 12 if you only book 4. You would have to notify the host and change the reservation. Even if it were free (which I’ve never seen a host NOT charge for extra guests), you have to list the amount of people for liability purposes.
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:54 pm to
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quote:Airbnb has gotten to be really terrible They suck. Nasty houses, ridiculous fees... Way too many cameras.


Listen, im a host as I stated earlier. Hotels are gonna be superior when you only need one room and are a single party traveling together. Europe is definitely an exception here.

If you need an airbnb, check the reviews, real a lot of them. Youll get a pretty good idea about what the property is gonna be like. Click the "display total before taxes" when searching. Youll then see the cleaning fees factored in before even clicking on the listings.

Airbnb is just fine. If you stay at my Airbnb, you are gonna have a very nice, clean, comfortable house with soft drinks in fridge, coffee, a host that wont pester you, and zero check out responsibilities other than to just text me when you are gone
Posted by scottydoesntknow
Member since Nov 2023
10870 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 7:58 pm to
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Since it’s technically their property they’re allowed to have cameras in plain sight. But, Air BNB only allows them if they disclose them first, and they’re not allowed in bedrooms or bathrooms at all. None of that is illegal, but will get you kicked off the platform immediately if you break those rules.


I think cameras are in bad taste. I have zero cameras at my listing, not even a doorbell camera. I think people should be able to stay in peace knowing they can walk around butt nekkid if they want to without being recorded. If you are a person that needs cameras in your house, you shouldnt be hosting
Posted by Monty Brewster
Member since Feb 2024
232 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:55 pm to
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I think cameras are in bad taste. I have zero cameras at my listing, not even a doorbell camera


Doorbell cameras are great. I caught one guy drunk who fell back and broke a rocking chair, and another guest who chipped a deckboard. Also caught one who had a dog (I have no pets allowed, and have an exemption that doesn’t allow service animals either), and one who brought over 8 people total on a 3 person reservation where local laws only allow 4 people max to a short term listing. They come in handy and guests don’t give a crap about them.

If you disclose that you have them in the living room on the other hand, probably would scare off guests.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 8:57 pm to
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If you disclose that you have them in the living room on the other hand, probably would scare off guests.



So you don't disclose it...
Posted by Monty Brewster
Member since Feb 2024
232 posts
Posted on 2/19/24 at 9:01 pm to
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So you don't disclose it...


Against Air BNB and would get you kicked off the platform immediately.
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