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re: Ahmaud Arbery’s killers sentenced to life in prison, two with no chance of parole
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:54 am to davyjones
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:54 am to davyjones
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GA has since overhauled its citizens arrest law pretty yugely. Hit "Current Version" at top. It's been signed/enacted
That’s basically an admission that the law was bullshite
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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GA doesn't have degrees
Georgia has second degree murder. They were not guilty of second degree murder. The sentencing statute for second degree murder is irrelevant in this case.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
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They still have to serve 30 years.
My understanding was that dad and son received life without parole, while camera guy received life with possibility of parole.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 10:04 am to saintforlife1
Death by peeling their skin and lighting them on fire would have been more fitting
Posted on 1/8/22 at 10:15 am to davyjones
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while camera guy received life with possibility of parole.
Yep.
if Arbery wouldn't have grabbed the gun, I would have pulled for the death penalty for all of them. I can't say I blame him for that, but it certainly kills off any proof that they intended on murdering someone.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 10:31 am to JohnnyKilroy
Have we gotten any links to back up that the average person serves about 10 years in GA for murder?
What about for felony murder specifically?
What about for felony murder specifically?
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 10:54 am
Posted on 1/8/22 at 10:35 am to JohnnyKilroy
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What about for felony murder specifically?
That's the thing, on
A fella convicted of felony murder, per GA statute, shall be sentenced to one of only three options: life with possibility, life without possibility, or death. Judge couldn't sentence to anything else other than those three options if he wanted to.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 10:37 am
Posted on 1/8/22 at 10:47 am to davyjones
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while camera guy received life with possibility of parole.
Camera guy is 52 so even if he is paroled after 30 years, he will be 82.
It is an effective life sentence for him as well.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 10:50 am
Posted on 1/8/22 at 10:49 am to jclem11
Yessir, pretty much.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 10:59 am to saintforlife1
They will get shanked in prison and nobody will see anything.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:08 am to saintforlife1
Our justice system is far from perfect but in two of the higher profile cases this year, it has worked.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:11 am to davyjones
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That's the thing, on
A fella convicted of felony murder, per GA statute, shall be sentenced to one of only three options: life with possibility, life without possibility, or death. Judge couldn't sentence to anything else other than those three options if he wanted to.
I don’t have any sympathy for these folks, but I think felony murder laws, in general, have gone overboard. It’s one thing to say someone is guilty by association. It’s another thing to say they are guilty by association with a minimum life sentence.
You have cases where police are pursuing two criminals after commission of a crime, shoot and kill one of them, then charge the other with felony murder for the first criminal’s death. Should a guy really get a life sentence because his burglary accomplice got shot by the cops? That seems like a twisted interpretation of the intent of the law, but it happens.
That said, the law is the law. You can’t change the rules for one case after the fact.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 11:12 am
Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:29 am to lostinbr
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You have cases where police are pursuing two criminals after commission of a crime, shoot and kill one of them, then charge the other with felony murder for the first criminal’s death.
Yeah I'd have a hard time getting behind something like that myself. It's really up to the state/prosecutor to be responsible in the discharge of their power and duty, and hopefully in a case like that they'd use restraint and charge a lower level of homicide. But unfortunately many of them are out to make a name for themselves as "tough on crime" which can and does result in miscarriages of justice. I do think they got it right in this case, as I tend to compare it to perhaps a situation like a couple or few people robbing a business at gunpoint, somewhere in chaos a struggle between gunman and an innocent ensues wherein the gun fires and the innocent is struck and killed. The other members of the stickup crew share equally in the punishment.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:32 am to Antonio Moss
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Our justice system is far from perfect but in two of the higher profile cases this year, it has worked.
Agreed. The circumstances are different but, the situation has a few similarities.
1) AA was being chased, just like KR was being chased.
2) AA felt like his life was being threatened, just like KR.
3) Guns were used to assault AA and KR.
4) AA & KR both attempted to defend themselves against the threat.
5) Both were being 'attacked' by three assailants.
6) Justice was served!
Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:33 am to lostinbr
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Should a guy really get a life sentence because his burglary accomplice got shot by the cops?
Solution is pretty simple, don't commit felonious crimes!
Posted on 1/8/22 at 12:28 pm to BayouBlitz
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Why are you white knighting these racist murderers?
That’s a rhetorical question for him
Posted on 1/8/22 at 1:12 pm to Damone
This is just another example of 'git back da man' for slavery, jim crow, we are oppressed, blah-blah...
And all the chest-beaters are on here and other sites trying to prove how to the world that "I am NOT wa'cist"
AA made his own bed. He had a violent history of being a 3rd rate hood rat with a criminal history.
Both McMicheals had previous episodes with AA and they were very familiar with AA as a thug and low-life.
There had been many reported break-ins in the McMicheals neighborhood in the last several months prior to that incident.
McMicheals was acting in self-defense when AA was killed.
The ONLY reason they were convicted was because of the skin-color of both parties.
The McMicheals were portrayed as evil backwoods racists while AA was just some innocent poor kid who was 'out for a jog' and was chased down , WITHOUT REASON, other than being 'black' by some racist white-folks.
This nothing more than a woke lynching of innocents folks who were protecting their neighborhoods from some two-bit hood rat.
Lots of self-righteous projecting by wokester ill-liberals who are trying to prove to the world that they are not racist.
And all the chest-beaters are on here and other sites trying to prove how to the world that "I am NOT wa'cist"
AA made his own bed. He had a violent history of being a 3rd rate hood rat with a criminal history.
Both McMicheals had previous episodes with AA and they were very familiar with AA as a thug and low-life.
There had been many reported break-ins in the McMicheals neighborhood in the last several months prior to that incident.
McMicheals was acting in self-defense when AA was killed.
The ONLY reason they were convicted was because of the skin-color of both parties.
The McMicheals were portrayed as evil backwoods racists while AA was just some innocent poor kid who was 'out for a jog' and was chased down , WITHOUT REASON, other than being 'black' by some racist white-folks.
This nothing more than a woke lynching of innocents folks who were protecting their neighborhoods from some two-bit hood rat.
Lots of self-righteous projecting by wokester ill-liberals who are trying to prove to the world that they are not racist.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 1:32 pm to Reubaltaich
Hey Pesticide.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 1:55 pm to Reubaltaich
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This is just another example of 'git back da man' for slavery, jim crow, we are oppressed, blah-blah...
And all the chest-beaters are on here and other sites trying to prove how to the world that "I am NOT wa'cist"
AA made his own bed. He had a violent history of being a 3rd rate hood rat with a criminal history.
Both McMicheals had previous episodes with AA and they were very familiar with AA as a thug and low-life.
There had been many reported break-ins in the McMicheals neighborhood in the last several months prior to that incident.
McMicheals was acting in self-defense when AA was killed.
The ONLY reason they were convicted was because of the skin-color of both parties.
The McMicheals were portrayed as evil backwoods racists while AA was just some innocent poor kid who was 'out for a jog' and was chased down , WITHOUT REASON, other than being 'black' by some racist white-folks.
This nothing more than a woke lynching of innocents folks who were protecting their neighborhoods from some two-bit hood rat.
Lots of self-righteous projecting by wokester ill-liberals who are trying to prove to the world that they are not racist.
Roger take notes. THIS is how you white knight for these murderers
Posted on 1/8/22 at 1:57 pm to tigerpimpbot
Yeah that's definitely going the extra mile.
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