re: Afghan veteran in standoff with police over red flag laws in up state NY

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A thread is officially dead when you show up, Bob.

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Translation: I played the fool and can’t admit it.

Take these as you will just think they should be part of the thread





ETA a couple of notes:

Criminal contempt supports the idea he violated an order of protection

The fact no firearms were every visible during any of his live streams while under "siege" supports the idea his guns had been seized either earlier that day as he claims while his wife was at home or previously pursuant to an order of protection

The fact the wife isn't screaming to high heaven about the cops threatening to take her kids earlier that day if she didn't allow them in to seize his guns and generally defending her husband suggests to me Alex was probably playing very loose with the facts in other words I think he was lying his arse off.

As time goes by and his wife is not out defending him the more I become sure he is a 2A Jussie. This doesn't mean I automatically believe her regarding whatever she reported to get the (presumed) protective order but that really isn't germane nor were they part of his claims.

While red flag laws are certainly something we need to discuss and act assuming I am correct we need to take a hard look at reacting to some total stranger on the internet. tOT is normally extremely skeptical about things like this, for example, Jussie. I think this potentially is a prime example of how that skepticism needs to extend to all these sorts of stories.

Omg.

Now the police and their propagandists are posting fake stories about this guy.

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This is going drastically different than the Aaron Carter thread... the question is why?

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Called it on page 2. I guess the difference is Aaron Carter didn't commit a bunch of crimes while violating a protective order

One of the 2A content creators (180 Second Ideas) posted a vlog where he is relaying information provided by a friend of the family he was able to "verify". If true it is exactly what some of us are thinking that he had a protective order came into a house where his "soon to be ex" was staying in "full kit" and drunk and scared the shite out of her. This precipitated the first officer's arrival and calling for backup. Everything that has come out since his surrender indicates he is indeed a 2A Jussie and just like that situation there is a vocal group hanging on to the initial narrative like a Subway sandwich in a cold Chicago winter.

While not 100% I am a long way past being willing to bet good money on this guy was a dangerous liar.

YT link to 180 Second Ideas vlog, if it doesn't start at ~3:20 you can fast forward to that point where he starts realying the info from the person in NY.

YT

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As does the medical profession, Doc....thousands of people die at the hands of doctors every year that you never hear about. A report by Johns Hopkins says about 250,000, other reports say as high as 440,000 PER YEAR.

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That’s such a bullshite number. So doctors kill almost as many people per year as cigarettes? There’s only about 1 million practicing doctors in the US and many of those aren’t in direct patient care, so to believe that we kill 250-440k people per year is asinine.
Regardless, the difference between my profession and yours is when a physician fricks up and causes the death of a patient the rest of the doctors in the hospital don’t defend him/her despite evidence of guilt.

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That’s such a bull shite number. So doctors kill almost as many people per year as cigarettes?

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You have a reading comprehension problem.

Medical profession doesn’t equal physicians Try not to fulfill the stereotype of the narcissistic physician. There are a host of non physicians in the medical profession. Not to mention computer/system breakdowns.

Medical mistakes are the third leading cause of death, behind cancer and heart disease.

I called this one right off the bat. The guy was obviously not right in the head in the video, and he still suckered a ton of people into believing his bullshite. Perfect example of people seeing whatever their bias wants them to see.

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After reading this thread and the man's crimes, I'd say the red flag laws were just in this case.

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If we can gloss over the fact this was never red flag law related...