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Advocate- Cash bail problem, not Trudy White

Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:10 pm
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:10 pm
Advocate article

shite like this is why I hate the media.

They recount the story of the recidivist who was let out on reduced bail and killed the Zachary police officer. They then looked at the situation and decided the problem was that “cash bail lets people with means out before trial”.

IMHO, they are intentionally missing the boat here in an attempt to pretend the problem isn’t that corrupt bitch Trudy White pandering to her base by letting thugs off easy.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:12 pm to
Wrong board, but you're not wrong
Posted by UncleRuckus
Member since Feb 2013
10260 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:12 pm to
U racist bruh
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105190 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:14 pm to
I thought local BR issues went through the OT rather than politics.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:14 pm to
Didn't she reduce his bail by something like 75%?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:14 pm to
i think you're missing the boat

the article is saying that if could reform the bail system, we would be able to keep guys like Franklin in jail, b/c we would have more time to spend to analyze his history and danger to society. in the current system, it's so squeezed and rushed that he was allowed to slip through the cracks

*ETA: this part

quote:

Many jurisdictions across the country, including New Orleans, have implemented a computer program-based or in-person risk assessment to evaluate the likelihood of recidivism and determine whether defendants pose a threat to themselves or others. Moore has consistently endorsed bringing such a process to East Baton Rouge as a means of providing more information to judges, and Blouin said the public defender's office would also support moving in that direction.


has been called racist by progressive outlets, though
This post was edited on 4/9/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:15 pm to
I thought this guy had a pretty long rap sheet
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105190 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:16 pm to
I read it more as “Let’s do something tangentially related to the original issue rather than address the elephant in the room.”

Bail reform is probably needed but the person pushing it in the article came off pushing it as an economic justice issue IMHO.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105190 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:17 pm to
This guy’s rap sheet was longer than Ron Jeremy.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

I thought this guy had a pretty long rap sheet

he did, and because of how our system is set up, he was let out and the DA didn't even get a chance to step in
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105190 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:18 pm to
Something close to 90%, I thought. It went from around $70000 to $7000 IIRC.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
6088 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

Moore has consistently endorsed bringing such a process to East Baton Rouge as a means of providing more information to judges


This would do nothing for a Trudy situation. Additional info isn’t going to make a difference in her decision to reduce bail so they can get out.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

Bail reform is probably needed but the person pushing it in the article came off pushing it as an economic justice issue IMHO.

i think if you were able to talk to her, the "economic justice issue" that would bug her most was how tens of thousands of non-violent drug offenders are currently incarcerated in LA and can't afford bond, but due to the issues in our system, this violent POS could
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

he did, and because of how our system is set up, he was let out and the DA didn't even get a chance to step in


So how is that a bail reform issue?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:21 pm to
quote:

I thought local BR issues went through the OT rather than politics.


It doesn't seem to be an admin policy, but moreso that anything besides national politics dies a quick death on the poliboard.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105190 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:22 pm to
Honestly, fixing things for nonviolent offenders is something I’m willing to listen to. Wrong fricking time for that, though.


It’s like asking for mental health advocacy at a time when you have clearly ill people like Nicholas Cruz shooting up schools despite being reported by everyone and their grandma.

It may have some bearing on the case involved but the amount of sympathy or effort you’ll receive is limited considering there are bigger problems going on.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

So how is that a bail reform issue?

if we had more of a standardized system that was more harsh towards people with violent histories or accused of violent crimes, people like Franklin wouldn't have wiggle room, and non-violent drug offenders could get out, creating less clogging of the system so that people like Franklin couldn't slip through the cracks
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:23 pm to
quote:

Didn't she reduce his bail by something like 75%?


From $88,000 to $9,000 is more than 75%
Posted by terd ferguson
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Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:25 pm to
quote:

The total bond was set at $88,000 with one of Judge Trudy White's commissioners signing off after setting the bond.

The next day, Judge Trudy White went behind the commissioner and amended the bond, reducing the amount on many of those charges.

Possession & Distribution of Manufactured Control Schedule I --- $2,500Possession & Distribution of Manufactured Control Schedule II --- $2,500Possession of Firearm with drugs --- $1,000Felon in Possession of Firearm --- $1,000Resisting an Officer --- $500Possession of Drug Paraphernalia --- $500Improper Lane Usage --- $500Failure to Signal --- $500

The total dropped from $88,000 to $9,000.

"I don't understand that because we can't go judge shopping but a criminal can go judge shopping, but police can't do that when we try to get a warrant signed or a search warrant signed," Chief McDavid said.

Franklin bonded out on a commercial surety bond, meaning someone put up property to secure his bond.

"Usually, you see judges tweaking the amount up or down a little bit, usually down, but this amount is dramatic," Dane Ciolino, a Loyola University Professor who teaches legal ethics, told the 9News Investigators. "It's not uncommon at all for judges to reduce bonds. That is a fairly typical event in the Louisiana criminal justice system. What's unusual and somewhat striking in this case is how much the bond was reduced."

It was reduced by $79,000.


Just two weeks later, on November 28th, Zachary police arrested Franklin again. This time for illegal possession of a stolen firearm. His bond was set at $5,000 by a different judge, Judge Anderson, but there was a note reading "notify Judge White of new arrest"
Posted by BigSquirrel
Member since Jul 2013
1880 posts
Posted on 4/9/18 at 12:26 pm to
I don't know why people even read the Advocate. They can't get anything right, ever.
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