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re: Adderall as a performance-enhancing drug
Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:40 pm to saint amant steve
Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:40 pm to saint amant steve
ADHD is a made up disorder for people who dont have enough self control to sit down and do what the're supposed to do. downvotes incoming.
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Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:40 pm to Oates Mustache
Id be more worried about the cardiomyophathy is causes.
Those with extended use can expect to have cardiac complications much earlier in life.
But the feelz tho...
Those with extended use can expect to have cardiac complications much earlier in life.
But the feelz tho...
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 4:36 pm
Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:47 pm to TheAlmightySmash
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ADHD is a made up disorder for people who dont have enough self control to sit down and do what the're supposed to do. downvotes incoming.
I've been saying this for years.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:56 pm to bigrob385series
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it's an amphetamine
Someone mention amphetamines?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 2:58 pm to saint amant steve
these kids fricked man.
Pop addy to enhance your abilities, but all you gonna get is a participation trophy.
Pop addy to enhance your abilities, but all you gonna get is a participation trophy.
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:02 pm to saint amant steve
You can't just take the Adderall and magically know everything as soon as it kicks in
Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:05 pm to saint amant steve
i took it for an exam and had an intramural bball game that night. went 8-9 from 3. i was in the frickin zone.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:14 pm to TheAlmightySmash
quote:All of the professionals disagree with you. I had a tutor who was a high school teacher that didn't comprehend it fully. After tutoring me for one semester, he finally figured it out. He said sitting there and observing it helped him understand ADHD more than any book he'd ever read on the subject.
ADHD is a made up disorder for people who dont have enough self control to sit down and do what the're supposed to do. downvotes incoming.
My ex didn't understand it. I tried to explain it, but she wasn't getting it, so we agreed for me to tell her the thoughts that go through my head for one minute straight. She lasted 20 seconds and told me to stop. Thoughts roll through my head as fast as water slides off of a brand new Gore-tex jacket. One second I can be thinking about needing new pencil lead, and four seconds later I'm thinking about a monster truck show I saw 10 years ago
Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:21 pm to Hammertime
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All of the professionals disagree with you.
No, man. You need to listen to the people with zero clinical experience who tell you it doesn't exist. You have no self control and a drug addiction.
...that's how I imagine you read these threads.
That and also spending a large amount of time thinking about how exactly you were supposed to beat the third castle of the original NES Zelda just before thinking about that one year after Homecoming when you went to your buddy's house with a flashback here and there to what the best pocket knife is.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:24 pm to Hopeful Doc
Too long of a sentence for me to read, sorry (ADD)
Eta: I seriously made it to "beat" and then, even though I was still reading, didn't comprehend or remember a single word after that
Eta: I seriously made it to "beat" and then, even though I was still reading, didn't comprehend or remember a single word after that
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:26 pm to TheAlmightySmash
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ADHD is a made up disorder for people who dont have enough self control to sit down and do what the're supposed to do.
I'm sure you did some hardcore research to reach that conclusion. Please share it with us. Meanwhile I'll pop a Vyvanse and dive into the rest of this enlightening thread.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:39 pm to Hopeful Doc
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f I've got someone who's not going to take it 7 days a week through the weekends and holidays, then they don't really need it.
This is interesting. I feel the same way, having no medical expertise. But my current psychiatrist gets onto me for not taking "breaks" and is worried I'll build up a tolerance. To clarify, by breaks he means I ought to not take it for weekends and holidays at all, and at a minimum try to take a break one day a week. I take it primarily for work, sure, but it's not like my total lack of "life efficiency" takes a break on the weekends. I've taken Vyvanse nearly every day for the past 7 years, same dosage. Being accustomed to the drug's effects lends itself to an even more pronounced feeling of forgetfulness, cluttered mind, and brain fog when off the drug, and I can't necessarily shut off just because I don't have a work deadline.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 3:49 pm to TheAlmightySmash
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ADHD is a made up disorder for people who dont have enough self control to sit down and do what the're supposed to do.
That's right! And while we're at it, them dadgum Asians shouldn't get drivers licenses, and why are we lettin' the women folk vote?
Posted on 12/18/15 at 4:07 pm to TheAlmightySmash
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ADHD is a made up disorder for people who dont have enough self control to sit down and do what the're supposed to do. downvotes incoming.
It's not just about working or that kind of thing. I had a 4.0 for grammar school and advanced classes in HS without taking anything. But there are other things that it impacts that make it very, very real.
Can't wake up in the mornings, can't sit still, start out on 1 task and end up on a completely different task, short term memory issues were big too. This was seen as behavioral issues when I was younger, but I was never actually getting into trouble.
It's weird. I don't like to take it often, and I mainly got through and excelled in college without it, but it works.
And people react very differently. People are saying they get talkative on it, but I get quiet on it
I'm sure you've done studies on it, like the thousands of medical professionals.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 4:08 pm to Restomod
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be more worried and the cardiomyophathy is causes.
Those with extended use can expect to have cardiac complications much earlier in life.
Can you expand on this?
My heart rate and blood pressure decreased when I started taking it regularly, but I also started working out and running. Def motivates me in that area.
I read a bunch of studies a few years ago when I had started taking it regularly. I don't find many side effects if I'm getting 7-8 hours of sleep with it. It can frick with your head and heart (rapid) on all nighters.
This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 12/18/15 at 4:11 pm to TigerBait1127
It causes damage to your heart over time, because you're cheating and not "putting your heart into it" like normal people
Posted on 12/18/15 at 4:13 pm to el Gaucho
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This post was edited on 12/18/15 at 5:24 pm
Posted on 12/18/15 at 4:16 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I don't need it if I'm working with my hands on something. That is about the only time I can focus. I don't take it on the weekends either
Posted on 12/18/15 at 4:31 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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But my current psychiatrist gets onto me for not taking "breaks" and is worried I'll build up a tolerance.
I'll admit, I've not read the actual studies myself, but one of my superiors/teachers (the Dr Cox to my JD in seasons 1-3 of Scrubs, or perhaps the McDreamy to my Meredith minus the sex through at least the first 4 seasons of Gray's Anatomy) who is a regionally-renowned ADHD expert states that (and he draws this from studies, again, I haven't laid eyes on them. I just trust him. But this post is making me heavily consider adding this to my reading list), so-called "drug holidays" as you describe do nothing for efficacy or tolerance; the only real effect they were found to have was increase the amount of unpleasant side effects (namely the anorexia/mild GI disturbance- again, I've never taken them myself. I'm only really able to iterate the effects as they've been described to me). Conceivably, if you wanted to lose weight, you'd do yourself a small favor by skipping a day a week. This would be wildly off-label and inappropriate to recommend, as I understand it it's a very unique kind of "not hungry."
This, of course, in no way makes any sort of hint at your psychiatrist being wrong- those studies, which again, I'm paraphrasing an expert's opinion on rather than forming my own, definitely only looked at children, not adults. The concept of treating ADHD in adults is relatively new concept.
Posted on 12/18/15 at 4:33 pm to Hammertime
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I don't need it if I'm working with my hands on something. That is about the only time I can focus.
Hyperfocus on specific tasks can also be a symptom of ADHD, when you focus so intently that you lose all sense of time and other obligations. It can be fun-- as a kid I would work on models, puzzles, and paintings and the hours would roll by. But it can also be crippling -- like in a conversation or lecture, focusing so intently on a person's nose that you don't absorb a word he or she is saying.
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