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A white couple who burned a cross in their yard facing Black neighbors’ home....

Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:54 pm
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:54 pm
Are investigated by FBI

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The FBI is investigating a white South Carolina couple for racial discrimination after they set a cross on fire in their yard last month facing toward their Black neighbors’ home.

Federal civil rights investigators searched the white couple’s home in Conway on Wednesday, according to FBI spokesperson Kevin Wheeler. The retired Black couple also recorded video of the cross being burned on Thanksgiving weekend and described days of repeated threats from their neighbors. The next week, Worden Evander Butler, 28, and Alexis Paige Hartnett, 27, were arrested on state charges of harassment and later released on bond.

Cross burnings in the U.S. are “symbols of hate” that are “inextricably intertwined with the history of the Ku Klux Klan,” according to a 2003 U.S. Supreme Court decision written by the late Justice Sandra Day O’Connor. The justices ruled that the First Amendment allows bans on cross burnings only when they are intended to intimidate because the action “is a particularly virulent form of intimidation.”


The cross wasn’t on fire by the time local police officers arrived, but was still “facing and in full view of the victims’ home,” according to a Horry County Police Department report. Shawn and Monica Williams, the Black neighbors, told WMBF-TV that the burning cross was about 8 feet (2.4 meters) from their fence. They said they’re reconsidering their decision to move to the neighborhood two years ago in light of this experience.

“So now, what are we to do? Still live next to a cross-burning racist who’s threatened to cause us bodily harm?” Monica Williams told the Myrtle Beach-area broadcaster.

The Associated Press did not immediately receive responses to messages seeking comment Wednesday from a publicly available email address for Butler and a Facebook account for Hartnett. AP also called several phone numbers listed for Butler and Hartnett and received no response.

One of the white defendants was heard on police body camera footage repeatedly using a racial slur toward the Black couple, according to the police report. Butler also shared the Black couple’s address on Facebook, and posted that he was “summoning the devil’s army” and “about to make them pay,” the report said. According to an arrest warrant, Hartnett also threatened to hurt the couple.

South Carolina is one of two states in the country that does not impose additional penalties for hate crimes committed because of a victim’s race or other aspects of their identity. Monica Williams told the AP on Wednesday she hopes the episode highlights the need for hate crimes laws. In the meantime, she and her husband will “patiently wait for justice to be served.”

The laws are needed to protect everyone against any form of hate,” she said.




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Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79231 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:56 pm to
Listen I've already apologized
Posted by geauxjuice
t(-.-t)
Member since Jan 2007
4123 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:56 pm to
cant do shite anymore
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53408 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:57 pm to
I can't believe that's not protected speech.
Posted by Shexter
Prairieville
Member since Feb 2014
13883 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:57 pm to
Her Facebook is a perfect example of meth usage and white trash - https://www.facebook.com/thetruthisinyourheart

What does that couple do at this point? Going to be awkward checking the mail from now on.



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Hartnett and Butler live in a run-down bungalow (pictured) on Corbett Drive, according to the police report about their shocking alleged hate crimes






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Hartnett (pictured) who works as a crystal healer according to her social media profiles, is accused of 'using racial slurs, threatening bodily harm and referencing having killed a black woman in the past' on Thanksgiving this year, according to her arrest warrant


The cross in question:



The black couple:

This post was edited on 12/21/23 at 3:17 pm
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:58 pm to
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I can't believe that's not protected speech.

Hate crimes are crimes.
Posted by crewdepoo
Hogwarts
Member since Jan 2015
9600 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:58 pm to
Christians are insane
Posted by Triggerr
Member since Jul 2013
1891 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 2:58 pm to
Can’t burn a cross on your own property any more? What has this country come to
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4421 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:02 pm to
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South Carolina is one of two states in the country that does not impose additional penalties for hate crimes committed because of a victim’s race

Trash state does trashy things. No surprise that state offices also take off for Confederate Memorial Day in South Carolina. I wonder which the 2nd state is. Looks like it might be Arkansas?
Posted by TC Kidd
Member since Nov 2023
776 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:02 pm to
You mean thought crime. I don’t necessarily agree with burning a cross, but where’s the crime.
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79231 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:03 pm to
Often just enhancements for other crimes

I don't support hate crime laws. I do think rulings/statutes explicitly stating that stuff like this, when directed at someone in reasonable proximity, amounts to harassment, terroristic threat, etc. And perhaps that's already the case, I'm not sure.

I do think burning a cross in an open area as part of a protest/rally/etc. should be protected speech. It perhaps should get your arse kicked, but not by the state.
Posted by JetsetNuggs
Member since Jun 2014
13929 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:04 pm to
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Christians are insane


"Shut up"

-Me 12:21
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
53408 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:07 pm to
Thank you.

This black baw in Detroit who killed the head of a synagogue evaded the "hate crime" charge. It just seems so arbitrary and potentially violative of equal protection.
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Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:09 pm to
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I can't believe that's not protected speech.


..only if you're a liberal and invoking your free anti-religion speech.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
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19661 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:09 pm to
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Meth is insane

FIFY
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4421 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:14 pm to
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You mean thought crime.

This isn't the same as "words can't hurt you" where saying hurtful things vs. threatening with words.

Burning a cross purely to intimidate your neighbors is a hate crime.
Posted by Long Ball Larry
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2021
1388 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:17 pm to
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Hartnett (pictured) who works as a crystal healer


more like a crystal dealer - amirite
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15843 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:18 pm to
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I can't believe that's not protected speech.


Threats of bodily harm are free speech?

Why defend this trash?
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
131393 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:20 pm to
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Burning a cross purely to intimidate your neighbors is a hate crime.


black fragility
Posted by WestSideTiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
3548 posts
Posted on 12/21/23 at 3:22 pm to
If the neighbors were summoning the Devil’s Army they have bigger problems than just their racism. But the racism is what makes it national news.
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