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re: A Question for the Lounge’s Car Experts

Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:09 pm to
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13544 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:09 pm to
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Buy an xterra, 4runner, or old Suzuki sidekick instead. 

You'll thank me in two years with zero repair costs as opposed to the 1k a year chrysler budget for repairs.



This. This. THIS.

Jeeps have absolutely 100% earned their reputation as pieces of shite mechanically. I had one for a short time and it only had 50k miles on it when I bought it off the lot, got to roughly 65k before it had a $2000 transmission failure.

The fiance got a 2016 Cherokee Trailhawk (against every bit of my judgement and advice) brand new, we researched and everyone SWORE Jeep had gotten their "issues" worked out.

The thing spent 2 weeks in the shop a month after she bought it with a transmission software issue that made it just randomly choose gears, they never could actually solve the problem. The windshield seal leaked and ruined the headliner with roughly 10k miles on it. The shift lever and control module around it broke with roughly 20k miles on it.

It ate all terrain tires for breakfast because the alignment was totally fricked from the get-go. The interior appeared nice but was extremely cheap, stuff regularly broke, sagged, or warped. It ended up having to go BACK to the shop for yet another transmission issue with under 50k miles on it. At that point we were done.

Just don't do it. There's better, more reliable "all terrain SUVs" you can invest in. Get a FJ Cruiser, Land Cruiser, Xterra, 4runner, ANYTHING ELSE.
Posted by Hedgeman
Member since Oct 2017
202 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:19 pm to
Older Jeeps are pretty solid mechanically, but if something were to break parts are very cheap
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65892 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:22 pm to
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Get a Tacoma with a camper shell.


Really good advice and idea honestly.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13666 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:36 pm to
For those suggesting a Tacoma/Xterra/etc., can those be flat towed behind an RV like a Jeep? I swear half the responses here are talking about the Jeep doing the towing, instead of vice-versa.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:46 pm to
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For those suggesting a Tacoma/Xterra/etc., can those be flat towed behind an RV like a Jeep?


Right. There seem to be very few vehicles that can be flat towed behind an RV. I want a Jeep 4-door wrangler because of its versatility and fun factor.
Posted by Theboot32
Member since Jan 2016
2435 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:48 pm to
Yep, I bought my 08 in 13 and only had 45k miles on it, was like 25k.

Could still get like 15k for it and has 80k now
Posted by RazorBroncs
Harding Bisons Fan
Member since Sep 2013
13544 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:56 pm to

I didn't think a 4-door wrangler could be flat towed either, due to the much longer wheelbase than the 2-door?

I would think an FJ Cruiser (which also holds its value really well) would have a similar wheelbase to a 4-door Wrangler
Posted by MrSmith65
Member since Apr 2018
959 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 7:58 pm to
If it's a standard tranny, yes it can be flat towed.

If it's a 4x4, regardless of transmission, it can be flat towed, by putting the transfer case in Neutral.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32579 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:47 pm to
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They hold their value because of their popularity. How about their reliability

Horrible! Buy a Honda or Toyota. They last forever .
Posted by LSUwag
Florida man
Member since Jan 2007
17319 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 8:59 pm to
I’m no expert but, the Jeep Cherokee is actually built to be used as a Rv tow vehicle or it has an adaptation for it. Something about the driveline being disengaged and not building up heat.

You might want to look into this.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 9:04 pm to
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If it's a standard tranny, yes it can be flat towed


Are you saying any standard shift can be towed? I have a standard Dodge Dakota and the manual says only the 4x4 version can be flat towed.

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If it's a 4x4, regardless of transmission, it can be flat towed, by putting the transfer case in Neutral.


I know the Jeep Wrangler standard and automatic 4x4’s can be flat towed but I don’t think that applies to all brands with 4x4s.
Posted by AndyCBR
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2012
7555 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:38 pm to
Do some more research. It is my understanding there are many cars that can be towed all wheels down. Some have a special sequence for the transmission to shift it into that mode. Motorhome.com has guides for every year model back to 2000 with details.

IE the Jeep isn't the only option.

Hope this helps.
This post was edited on 12/5/18 at 10:38 pm
Posted by MrSmith65
Member since Apr 2018
959 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 10:56 pm to
We've towed all over the country for years with standard tranny vehicles.

I will have to say that 90% were 4x4, though, and just kicked the transfer case to N.....
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
Member since Oct 2008
1805 posts
Posted on 12/6/18 at 12:44 am to
As of the 2016 edition, no Toyotas can be flat towed. Motorhome Magazine puts out a towing guide each year and lists all makes and models that can be towed 4 down. I bought a Ford Explorer for this reason. Jeeps are the easiest ones to tow, that's why you see so many, but they are definitely not the only ones.
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