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A Question for the Lounge’s Car Experts

Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:49 am
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:49 am
I want to buy a used 4-door Jeep to tow behind my motorhome. My budget is $25,000. Which is the best value, newer model with high miles or older model with low miles?
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98182 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:50 am to
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older model with low miles?


Ah, you mean a unicorn.
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
35088 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:51 am to
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I want to buy a used 4-door Jeep to tow behind my motorhome


I thought those came standard when you bought a motorhome.
Posted by lsunatchamp
Member since Feb 2009
2025 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 11:53 am to
Jeeps really hold their value. I got an 08 Wrangler 4 door with 86,000 miles on it...worth about $18,000
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27396 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:00 pm to
Buy an xterra, 4runner, or old Suzuki sidekick instead.

You'll thank me in two years with zero repair costs as opposed to the 1k a year chrysler budget for repairs.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:01 pm to
They hold their value because of their popularity. How about their reliability? I’m skittish about buying a used vehicle but I know that most Jeeps are just used as SUV commuters and I’m thinking that these vehicles will still have a lot of life even after a few years. It’s easy yo pick out the ones that have been driven hard off road.
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3579 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:03 pm to
Jeeps have too short a wheelbase for towing. Physically, it can perform the task. You will have white knuckles if you do anything that is not flat.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65677 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:05 pm to
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You'll thank me in two years with zero repair costs as opposed to the 1k a year chrysler budget for repairs.
2014 Grand Cherokee owner here.

Bought it new in Jan of '14.

It turned 185,000 miles today.

Regular (10k) Oil Changes, tires at 90k and 170k, brakes at 100k, and I have replaced one headlight bulb.

I didn't need to budget much for repairs, have I?
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14056 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:06 pm to
Get a Tacoma with a camper shell. no shell if you want to put bikes or ice chest and gas cans etc.

Lift if you want some ground clearance.
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:06 pm to
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Buy an xterra, 4runner, or old Suzuki sidekick instead.


Can these be flat towed? I’ve been towing a front wheel car using a dolly. That’s tedious and finding room for the tow dolly on some park sites can be problematic.

I want a Jeep for it’s versatility. A soft top can be a lot of fun in the summer because of the ease with making it a convertable and the 4WD would make exploring easier.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20114 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:09 pm to
I bought a used 2008 Jeep Grand Cherokee with 160,000 in 2017 for $4,000.

There were a few cosmetic issues but it really looked okay. The rubber on the bumpers had gotten ashy, and the headlights were yellowed and hazy.

It was throwing a code for an ignition problem, but I fixed that easily. It was only a vacuum hose leak.

I’ve put 25,000 miles on it and it runs like a top. The new rubber cover for the bumper was $100. Headlight polish was also cheap. Looks like a normal car. People say it looks good.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
2945 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 12:12 pm to
Jeeps are not known for being super reliable but they are pretty simple vehicles. Tons of aftermarket parts, pretty easy to work on etc. if you are buying one to tow behind your motorhome I would think that you can afford a few repairs. Find one you like and buy it.
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27396 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:02 pm to
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soccerfüt


Since you are contrarian... I'll humor you.

That's a 37000 mpy one owner vehicle that is mainly hwy miles.

That is literally the type of vehicle I pursue when purchasing a used 4x4. High mileage one owner with maintenance records. Why? Miles are meaningless. The type of miles and upkeep is what matters.

Also, it is unlikely it has been treated the way the average jeep owner treats theirs. Hopping curbs and splashing through every puddle they encounter on the road.

Also, I just got rid of my rubicon in March with 180k on it.

It's a fact that chrysler vehicles have electronics issues, seal issues, and transmission issues. Unless they have the aisin trans...which yours should.

Go argue somewhere else.
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
Member since Oct 2008
1804 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:03 pm to
Did you even read the question??
Posted by Kentucker
Cincinnati, KY
Member since Apr 2013
19351 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 1:19 pm to
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That is literally the type of vehicle I pursue when purchasing a used 4x4. High mileage one owner with maintenance records. Why? Miles are meaningless. The type of miles and upkeep is what matters


That’s what I was looking for. Thanks, now I feel better about the selection I have made.
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65677 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 4:58 pm to
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Unless they have the aisin trans...which yours should.
Not the only incorrect item in your post but one easily refuted.

All automatic ‘14-‘18 MY GC have ZF 8 speeds.

185,000 miles over almost 5 years with zero defects.

I don’t care if that mileage and time were done on a hermetically-sealed climate-controlled treadmill, that’s impressive.

I’ve got several GM products in my fleet (GMC C-1500s) that are younger and with much less mileage but have had many trips to the dealership to address issues.

A broken motor mount, all kinds of electrical (HVAC, lights, engine sensors, etc), power steering pump leaking, meanwhile I’m still at zero defects.
Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
2986 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:05 pm to
The 07-18 Jeep (JK) is essentially unchanged for the entire production run. That said... I've had 3 of them and they made improvements in quality and reliability over the production run. I would get the newest one you can get.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:19 pm to
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You'll thank me in two years with zero repair costs as opposed to the 1k a year chrysler budget for repairs.


I have a 2000 Wrangler 4.0 standard trans, 116K miles, have made no repairs other than a brake job and replace some light bulbs. Owned a 1997 2.5L wrangler before that, no repairs in 40K miles, traded it in for the 2000 for the larger engine, newer Jeeps may not be as solid. If you are handy with a wrench there is hardly anything that a owner couldn't repair themselves on the TJ series, and parts are available from a multitude of online sources.
Posted by pjab
Member since Mar 2016
5646 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 5:27 pm to
I just looked at these. $25k will get a 2 door 30k mile ‘15. Add $5k for 4 door.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54676 posts
Posted on 12/5/18 at 6:54 pm to
What are you using it for?

Get something really cheap, maybe surplus, if you just need vehicle and looks don't matter.
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