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re: A pardoned Jan. 6 rioter was convicted of sexually abusing children

Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39281 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:47 pm to
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Not sure what any of this has to do with a Trump pardon being a child molester.

What does a Trump pardon have to do with him later molesting children?
Did the pardon cause the molestation?
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46171 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:50 pm to
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Did the pardon cause the molestation?


If he was never pardoned, he couldn't have molested children.

However, if deporting illegals result in them not molesting children, that's totally different and fascist.

Can you not follow this very clear logic?
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5351 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:26 pm to
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If he was never pardoned, he couldn't have molested children.


The article suspiciously avoids mentioning when the child crimes took place.

It only states "In 2024, Andrew Paul Johnson pleaded guilty to nonviolent charges for entering the U.S. Capitol through a broken window during the Jan. 6 riot and then cursing at police officers trying to clear the area" and "...Just months after Johnson received his prison sentence, Trump pardoned him along with virtually every other Jan. 6 defendant."

The fact that he tried to bribe the victims leads me to think that this stuff happened in the past (prior to his 2024 arrest and conviction) and allegations were not brought forth until later. Who tries to bribe a kid under 12 and wouldn't that result in some type of separate child crime? Maybe he tried to bribe their parents? Who knows.

But my spidey sense is telling me this is modern journalism (propaganda) trying to provoke the reaction that many here assume - BUT FOR the pardon, these kids would not have been abused. We can't say that based on the information given which is either sloppy journalism or outright intentional deception based on political bias.

I would say the same about any article concerning a crime by one of Biden's avalanche of pardons - although I guess some of his "blanket" pardons would exclude prior criminal activity.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71214 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:31 pm to
The timeline was intentionally ambiguous in the article. Small chance it's just incompetency in journalism, but at this point they deserve no benefit of the doubt.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36335 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:49 pm to
Death penalty.

However, compared to the percentage of diddlers in the entire population that seems extremely low.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11455 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:50 pm to
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This might be news to you, but unlawful presence in the country is a civil violation, not a crime.
And failure to depart once a removal order has been issued is a felony.

There is a gray area which you are attempting to paint black and white. Overstaying a visa is a civil offense, but once removal orders have been issued it becomes a felony to remain.

I agree that those who have overstayed a visa and did not enter illegally deserve their day in immigration court. 100%. I do not agree that people should enter illegally, or be allowed to stay once they have been issued removal orders. If we follow what is happening across the country over the last year, the departments who 'protect' those two by not cooperating with Federal agents have been the areas that have led to 'profiling'. There is a lot of unrest in the country currently that has states/cities as culpable as the Fed with what has transpired if not moreso.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36335 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 4:51 pm to
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Why are you defending crime, especially to children? That shouldn't be an R or D trigger.


"Why do you care about criminals that are illegal when there are more legal criminals?"
Posted by RebRxV
Member since Oct 2022
589 posts
Posted on 2/11/26 at 6:28 pm to
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Not sure what any of this has to do with a Trump pardon being a child molester.

Ah, this statement tells me that you believe Trump KNEW beforehand the person he pardoned was a child molester and pardoned him anyway. Sorry, I disagree.
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