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re: A 99 million person COVID-19 vaccine trial side effects has released its data

Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:41 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:41 pm to
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Well yeah. You would have gotten injected with something other than what you signed the paper for. However, that is not what happened to you. You signed a piece of paper for the covid vaccine. You got injected with the covid vaccine. Sorry you are a dumbass.


bullshite. It’s not even a vaccine.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
17936 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:47 pm to
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An honest observer of these studies would point out that the possible side effects from the vaccine are the same as from actual CoVID, but at a much lower rate.


An honest observer might also conclude that a medical intervention with no current disease that increases your risk of contracting the disease is not worth the risk of side effects.

Posted by BeachDude022
Premium Elite Platinum TD Member
Member since Dec 2006
36406 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:48 pm to
I've been fine, other than the constant twitch in my neck and second penis growing.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
36446 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:51 pm to
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I've been fine, other than the constant twitch in my neck and second penis growing.


That's my second penis growing.
Posted by Vincenzo Pantangelli
Member since Nov 2024
1410 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:53 pm to
Booster lmao what a sheep
Posted by AnotherWin4LSU
Member since Jun 2023
395 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:54 pm to
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What are the absolute numbers.


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A large cohort study of 23.1 million residents across four Nordic countries revealed an increased risk of myocarditis among young males aged 16–24 years, based on 4–7 excess events in 28 days per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of BNT162b2, and between 9 and 28 per 100,000 vaccinees after a second dose of mRNA-1273 [22].


4-7 more cases of myocarditis than expected per 100,000 vaccines of Pfzer and 9-20 extra cases of myocarditis than expected per 100,000 vaccines of Moderna. Not that big of a deal especially when you remember that the expected number was calculated using pre-Covid data.

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The incidence of myocarditis pre-COVID was reported at 1 to 10 cases/100,000 individuals and with COVID ranging from 150 to 4000 cases/100,000 individuals.
LINK

When you compare the rates of myocarditis from vaccines to pre-Covid data it looks scary. When you compare it to the rate of myocarditis from Covid infection then its not so scary. Not trying to argue the pros or the cons of the vaccine or for or against the vaccine. Just pointing out the obvious facts.

1. Covid changed everything when it comes to myocarditis. It is almost like the spike protein was engineered to be extra super duper inflammatory.

2. This study was released over 8 months ago. If the findings were as earth shattering as the MD in the video in the OP claims then wouldn't it had made the news before this? Especially since it was released while RFK Jr was still running for POTUS.
Posted by AnotherWin4LSU
Member since Jun 2023
395 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:56 pm to
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Well yeah. You would have gotten injected with something other than what you signed the paper for. However, that is not what happened to you. You signed a piece of paper for the covid vaccine. You got injected with the covid vaccine. Sorry you are a dumbass.


bullshite. It’s not even a vaccine.


It is classified as one. You as a willing adult signed a piece of paper agreeing to be injected with a substance that is classified as a vaccine. Again sorry you a dumbass.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85118 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:56 pm to
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is that what you are saying??


The study in the OP is saying it actually:

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Moreover, overall risk–benefit evaluations of vaccination should take the risk associated with infection into account, as multiple studies demonstrated higher risk of developing the events under study, such as GBS, myocarditis, or ADEM, following SARS-CoV-2 infection than vaccination.


The actual study in case anyone wants to read it:

LINK
Posted by Vincenzo Pantangelli
Member since Nov 2024
1410 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 4:57 pm to
Tell me got the clot shot without telling me you got it
Posted by DrrTiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2023
1498 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:01 pm to
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An honest observer of these studies would point out that the possible side effects from the vaccine are the same as from actual CoVID, but at a much lower rate. This is typical for any vaccine.


An honest observer would acknowledge when people begin experiencing side effects immediately after receiving an injection instead of explaining away those effects to an illness they may or may not have ever contracted.
Posted by southerngent1417
Frisco, TX
Member since Jan 2014
322 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:12 pm to
Stepdaughter, nice. Any pics?
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42861 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:22 pm to
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is that what you are saying?? The study in the OP is saying it actually: quote:Moreover, overall risk–benefit evaluations of vaccination should take the risk associated with infection into account, as multiple studies demonstrated higher risk of developing the events under study, such as GBS, myocarditis, or ADEM, following SARS-CoV-2 infection than vaccination. The actual study in case anyone wants to read it:


Pure bloods are not interested in reading. The pure bloods are a strange bunch of people with a psychotic obsession with other people’s vaccination decisions.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
8205 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:22 pm to
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It’s not about rubbing anyone’s nose in it as far as I’m concerned, but there need to be serious consequences for the lies that were told, the people who are vaccine injured and the people who were fired over this.


What made this even worse in the US was the ignoring of people having existing antibodies from true infections after 90 days (later 10 days) and positive antibody tests.

I got not wanting to rely on just a positive test for virus if asymptomatic as original tests thru fall to late 2021 took testing out to 40 cycle threshold when later the live replicating virus was only seen out to a 33 cycle threshold (I think), but they didn’t care about natural active/acquired immunity from a previous infection even if it was validated with testing. It had to be by the vaccine.

They also pushed and required vaccines too soon after infections and pushed the secondary injection too soon after the first. Some already infected were getting 3 surges of antibodies within 4 months, and later others were getting 3 surges within a little over a month when waiting 10 days from a positive became the approved time to wait after an infection.

Summer and fall of 2021 they then pushed getting another injection to help flood the body with another antibody surge and hope having the surge numbers help fight off the “D” variant. Might have done the same with omicron. They backed up their policies with post hoc analyses including comparisons of people who very recently got the “booster” versus natural immunity which all contained far too many unaccounted for variables that weren’t able to be factored in or out that could have majorly changed the results. Due to also trying to get a set % of age ranges and races along with each sex within these the actual sample finally used in the reported results of these post hoc analyses were very small and almost always seemed manufactured (narrow it down until it fits what we want). It bordered on propaganda.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 6:19 pm
Posted by ole man
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
14933 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:27 pm to
frick you you piece of shite you forget what your side wanted for us that didn’t take the shot.

I ain’t forgot shite so gtfo with your bullshite go get a frickin booster shot you frickin imbecile
Posted by DrrTiger
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2023
1498 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:27 pm to
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It bordered on propaganda.


Bordered? That bitch from OLOL who they trotted out to tell people they were going to die unless they got the shot would make Baghdad Bob blush.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:29 pm to
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frick you you piece of shite you forget what your side wanted for us that didn’t take the shot.

I ain’t forgot shite so gtfo with your bullshite go get a frickin booster shot you frickin imbecile


Watch your blood pressure gramps. Maybe have a seat in the rocker and catch a nap.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42861 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:30 pm to
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frick you you piece of shite you forget what your side wanted for us that didn’t take the shot.


My side? I didn’t take a side. My position is and always been take the vaccine if you want it. Don’t take it if you don’t.

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I ain’t forgot shite


Like I said. Psychotic and obsessed.
This post was edited on 1/14/25 at 5:33 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:32 pm to
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It is classified as one. You as a willing adult signed a piece of paper agreeing to be injected with a substance that is classified as a vaccine. Again sorry you a dumbass.


By who? Anthony Fauci? It’s a blatant lie.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
42861 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:34 pm to
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By who?


The FDA who are the people who determine that sort of thing.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
33915 posts
Posted on 1/14/25 at 5:34 pm to
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Nah fam. She just ain’t trying to frick.


Lol. That occurred long before the shot.
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