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re: 93 covid deaths reported today in Louisiana

Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by ssgtiger
Central
Member since Jan 2011
3283 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:50 pm to
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Everything I’ve heard is that lost are recovering.



Who are you talking to? Sure lots are recovering, but there still is an alarming amount of healthy young folks not recovering. I lost one of my soldiers last week. He had no preexisting conditions and was in his mid 30s. Got COVID and died 6 days later.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96197 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Deaths always lag behind a couple weeks
You realize that has nothing to do with what I said correct?

When 1900 people were hospitalized in January, 105 new deaths were reported

Today, there are 2800 hospitalized and 93 new deaths were reported


Both those situations are dealing with lags, yet one has less lagged deaths even with 1000 more people hospitalized
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85395 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Look at the graph from my link. The worst actual day was 4/5/2020 and it was 74 deaths on that day. Right now, we are maxing out in the mid thirties. We aren't even halfway there and are already starting to see the plateau.



Got to love the abuse of the numbers.

We’ve never had more than 74 people die on a single day and yet LDH is portraying 93 and 105 as if they’re some legitimate high water marks.

The truth of the matter is the 105 and 93 are just the result of the incompetence in this state. If deaths were reported in a timely fashion those numbers wouldn’t exist.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85234 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:52 pm to
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He had no preexisting conditions and was in his mid 30s. Got COVID and died 6 days later.
There will always be exceptions and anecdotes. His case is one in a million.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116401 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:52 pm to
I saw a graph today on twitter that cracked me up a bit.

It was total doom and gloom NO END IN SIGHT WE ARE SCREWED.

And it clearly reflected while we have more cases and hospitalizations than previous waves, we are having far less deaths in relation.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:52 pm to
Getting ready to shift the narrative from cases and hospitalizations to deaths

Every wave follows the same pattern
First cases rise then hospitalizations then deaths

The media focuses on what is worst at that given time. As cases start to drop over the next couple of weeks we will be talking about the deaths.

It’s designed to milk every bit of attention grabbing fear they can get. This is a good thing, it means the wave is ending.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116401 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:53 pm to
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85234 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:54 pm to
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The truth of the matter is the 105 and 93 are just the result of the incompetence in this state. If deaths were reported in a timely fashion those numbers wouldn’t exist.
When they stopped reporting on the weekends, Monday and Tuesdays numbers were always inflated. But they've always taken advantage of that. Used to, it's why people followed/cared only about the 7-day and 14-day average... because it was more legit data and realistic.

Reality isn't useful though.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:55 pm to
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Who are you talking to? Sure lots are recovering, but there still is an alarming amount of healthy young folks not recovering. I lost one of my soldiers last week. He had no preexisting conditions and was in his mid 30s. Got COVID and died 6 days later.


Was he vaccinated?
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
28907 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:55 pm to
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If deaths were reported in a timely fashion those numbers wouldn’t exist.

Yep, that’s why the 7-day average is probably a better measuring stick. It takes some of the human error of reporting out if it.

But that’s going up as well, so it is what it is, spreading.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
85395 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:56 pm to
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You realize that has nothing to do with what I said correct?

When 1900 people were hospitalized in January, 105 new deaths were reported

Today, there are 2800 hospitalized and 93 new deaths were reported


Both those situations are dealing with lags, yet one has less lagged deaths even with 1000 more people hospitalized


People are either legitimately being misled or they’re intentionally obtuse.

The 105 number was actually before the peak in hospitalizations a couple days later. The date of death count high was about a week after the peak of hospitalizations, but that number was only 65 deaths on 1/18.

It takes about 30 seconds of critical thinking to realize the 93 number is not deaths in the last 24 hours, but it’s a shame it takes any time at all. The numbers should be presented in a clear and concise manner.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85234 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:57 pm to
If that graph is accurate, then even the 105 number from January is incorrect. And that graph is missing a huge identifier... Deaths REPORTED.

Again, if it showed the deaths on the actual date of death it would be much less dramatic.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22398 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 1:00 pm to
You need to go to the Deaths by Date tab on LDH site.



This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 1:02 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85234 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 1:02 pm to
quote:

Yep, that’s why the 7-day average is probably a better measuring stick. It takes some of the human error of reporting out if it.

But that’s going up as well, so it is what it is, spreading.
But even the 7-day average is going up at a slower rate than any of the other spikes. The plateau will be lower even though hospitalizations are the highest every (although even that is inflated).
Posted by Who_Dat_Tiger
Member since Nov 2015
18152 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 1:05 pm to
Yeah that’s bad data. This is straight from the LDH although the graphs are a nightmare on mobile. The 7-day avg deaths is 30 and looks lower past few days.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
262334 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

alarming amount of healthy young folks not recovering


What is this number?
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85234 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 1:06 pm to
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You need to go to the Deaths by Date tab on LDH site.
Another bit of data they don't want you to realize is that the 18-29 year old demographic has ALWAYS led every other group in terms of case counts. They want you to think that group is suddenly at risk as if they've never been the leader in cases, but that's simply not true. And even the 4-17 year olds have been in the top 3 or 4 of cases since January. Again, that's hasn't changed in months even with this new variant. But that's not the narrative.

You can see that data if you keep scrolling through the graphs.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56574 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Rather die on my feet than live on my knees. No mask, no vax


God damn people are retarded.

Look, dont get the shot, dont wear a mask. But dont be a drama queen like you are making some life or death grand statement.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85234 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 1:11 pm to


Important takeaways that they don't want you talking about:

18-29 year olds have always lead the way since the start (may 2020)
5-17 year olds have been top 4 in cases since Jan 2021
Infants are still least at risk for even getting a case
This post was edited on 8/10/21 at 1:14 pm
Posted by Cymry Teigr
Member since Sep 2012
2109 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 1:16 pm to
Better visualization(to prove your point) using the data from the weekly age stats that you can download from the site to show which ages represent the most cases over time:

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